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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Inaction is not facilitation. For example, two homosexuals can still get married even if a Christian photographer declines to photograph their wedding. But the photographer did not facilitate the wedding
    Photographers don't facilitate weddings. They document them. It would be like the authors of the books of the bible refusing to do so because sins were documented in the books.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    And if a governor decides to pass a bill allowing discrimination of whatever YOU are?

    Then what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Then I have to patronize businesses that don't discriminate against me. Problem solved
    Granted, if you're in the majority it's a pretty toothless threat. If you're in the minority you can find yourself marginalized from society, business, investment...education, which creates a much larger problem for the minority in question.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Now you know why many conservatives are often seen as narcissistic bigots.

    Glad I could help.
    Let's look at the reality. A business owner tells a customer he does not sell products or offer services for same sex weddings. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. He makes no effort to stop the wedding, or interfere in the wedding or to punish the wedding participants.

    On the other hand, the same sex couple sets out to punish the business owner by having the state force the owner to act against his wishes or pay fines and penalties even to the point of driving the owner out of business.

    One party wants to control his own business based on his own beliefs. The same sex couple wants to harm the business owner based on their beliefs.

    Her's a tip. If that same sex couple wants to harm someone because they don't agree with their beliefs and comply with their wishes, the same sex couple are the intolerant bigots

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    The bigotry we see today is aimed at people of conscience, particularly religious conscience
    This made me laugh.

    "People of conscience". Religious people have no more conscience than anyone else.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Only conservatives? Perhaps an example is in order....
    Reagan ignoring AIDS until he absolutely couldn't anymore.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Photographers don't facilitate weddings. They document them. It would be like the authors of the books of the bible refusing to do so because sins were documented in the books.
    That's a weak comparison. Photographers do indeed facilitate the wedding. Forcing them do photograph the wedding is a gross act of intolerant bigotry

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Granted, if you're in the majority it's a pretty toothless threat. If you're in the minority you can find yourself marginalized from society, business, investment...education, which creates a much larger problem for the minority in question.
    I'm in the minority so your argument fails

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Let's look at the reality. A business owner tells a customer he does not sell products or offer services for same sex weddings. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. He makes no effort to stop the wedding, or interfere in the wedding or to punish the wedding participants.

    On the other hand, the same sex couple sets out to punish the business owner by having the state force the owner to act against his wishes or pay fines and penalties even to the point of driving the owner out of business.

    One party wants to control his own business based on his own beliefs. The same sex couple wants to harm the business owner based on their beliefs.

    Her's a tip. If that same sex couple wants to harm someone because they don't agree with their beliefs and comply with their wishes, the same sex couple are the intolerant bigots
    So the gays are to blame for public accommodation laws?

    Quit trying to pretend that these business owners are poor defenseless victims. They could simply become a private club and they could discriminate 'til the Klansmen come home.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    This made me laugh.

    "People of conscience". Religious people have no more conscience than anyone else.
    And yet they are being discriminated against, by governments. Kudos to Mike Pence for standing up for freedom

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    That's a weak comparison. Photographers do indeed facilitate the wedding. Forcing them do photograph the wedding is a gross act of intolerant bigotry
    That poor photographer. It will probably take years of therapy to overcome the trauma. Such a victim.
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