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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I pretty much agree with these people. Take what you want from this video.
    No thanks - not planning on watching a 31 minute video and hope to figure out how you're making decisions.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Then you are simply being selective in your bigotry. People of the mindset that you are espousing are rarely rational in their bigotry in any event.
    The catch is that if I disagree with your opinion or you with mine, then I'm a bigot and so are you.

    Bigot: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Where you are wrong is that "tolerance" does not require one to be "tolerant" of the "intolerant"....understand the circular reasoning there?
    If you're intolerant to people with whom you disagree, you're intolerant period.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Ok, I disagree and really wouldn't favor a return to the days of Jim Crow and communities treating minorities as second class citizens, but at least I know where you stand and that I'm glad the vast majority don't hold those views.
    In the era of Jim Crow businesses were forced to discriminate and in the present era they are forced not to discriminate. All my position says is that both positions are wrong and businesses should be able to practice their rights like everyone else.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    No thanks - not planning on watching a 31 minute video and hope to figure out how you're making decisions.
    Then you won't get you question answered.

    That's my POV like it or not
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    So you're repeal part or all of the CRA as well, especially Title II. Whites Only, etc.? Maybe it's just gays who shouldn't have any protection from discrimination?
    Eventually, I would repeal any prohibition on the right of private association by individuals or groups - and keep clauses relevant to prohibition of government discrimination.. However, I would start with repealing the most onerous prohibitions. Initially I would:

    Step One: Recognize that Constitutionally and historically the justification for 'equal protection' (at best) applies on to matters of race (or perhaps national origin). That was the intent of the 14th amendment. It did not apply to protection of other catagories.

    Step Two: Protect the right of any privately owned or closely held corporation to refrain from acting in any manner to express support for any social, cultural, or personal opinion or practice should they choose.

    Step Three: Protect the right of any privately owned or closely held corporation to hire, trade, sell to, or terminate whomever they please (unless they have a contract).

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    but thats to a fact at all. in fact I dont know one christian in real life affected NEGATIVELY by equal rights and nondiscrimination laws, they protect us. Based on Christianity ZERO Christians are affected.
    so yes the facts i sated do win and the stuff you made up is simply false.
    facts win again
    Then you're ignoring the cases of the photographer who declined to photograph a homosexual wedding and the bakers who declined to provide cakes for homosexual weddings.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    I agree you havent posted one rational, honest, logical or factual thing to prove otherwise . . . not one. . .
    if you disagree I directly challenge you right now to do so . . .please do so in your next post
    your claim fails and facts win again
    There's really no need to bother since you've provided no proof or argument for your claims. You're blowing smoke.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Right....I disagree the Homosexual plight has anything to do with the civil rights movement. Guess I'm a bigot.

    What of it?
    Everyone is a bigot. It's why calling someone a bigot as an insult has never made any sense.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) wow this further explains your confusion. How could you not know this fact? Are you from america, im guessing no now
    2.) no because all else being equal both of those statements are the same based on legality.
    3.) correct, the owners did the right thing, they stopped breaking the law, infringing on peoples rights and they fixed thier stupid choice to be criminals and changed thier business.
    home based, by appointment only, and with a change of business description etc etc etc
    4.) laws were broken and rights were infringed
    if your daughter is raped and you kill her rapist to courts and lawyers get involved? i mean "you took care of it" right?
    Not sure that I'd put discrimination, such as this instance, on the same level as rape.
    It's a global Jihad, stupid. Allowing that poison into the country is only going to increase the damage it inflicts on others.
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