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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    They didn't parade around telling the whole world and demanding acceptance. There's your sign.
    Why do I get the feeling that you look down with disdain at the entire civil rights movement as well.....I can just imagine the disgust you felt with blacks parading around telling the whole world and demanding acceptance. Wow......bigotry is alive and well.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    No, this is not accurate at all.

    Have you ever noticed those signs stating: "We reserve the right to refuse service"? Those signs are affirming that the owner retains the right to refuse service for reasons not centered on a protected ground.
    Those signs are meaningless. Putting up such a sign does not give a business the right to break the law.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Attachment 67182392


    Product lines are differentiated by differences in - well - the product. Above is one of the wedding cakes in the Masterpiece Cakes catalog.

    1. What part of this cake identifies this as a "same sex marriage cake" in contrast to a "different sex marriage cake" as opposed to just a "wedding cake"?

    2. What part of this cake is different when purchased by same-sex couples in contrast to different-sex couples:
    A. Is it the recipe?
    B. Is it the materials?
    C. Is it the decoration (notice this cake does not employ toppers or text)?




    Or is the difference not in fact in the cake, the difference being the customers that purchase such a cake.



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    Shhhhh......they don't want to include that "special" ingredient that turns all the attendees at the wedding gay...

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Yes, baking a cake for a homosexual is against your religion. I guess I missed that part in the bible. People like you are using your religion as a shield when you know it comes from your own personal bigotry. There is zero difference between this and hanging a "No Blacks Allowed" sign outside. Keep acting like Christ.
    Ask a Black minister or any Black with a lick of sense if they think there's difference.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Those signs are meaningless. Putting up such a sign does not give a business the right to break the law.
    It is not a law. You are confusing Sangha's views with "Law". The two dont always equate.

    As I have stated, I have seen baggy pants wearing people ordered to leave and change clothes. The refusal of service was lawful. So would a refusal to serve me while wearing a Rebel Pride T-shirt.

    Do an experiment: Enter a shopping mall as a legitimate shopper while wearing skin head / Waffen SS "wear". Then tell them that they cant lawfully refuse you entry. Let me know how it goes.... .
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Public accomodations must serve everybody. There are exceptions but they do not include "because I didn't want to"
    Not so. New Jersey law made the Boy Scouts a public accommodation, and yet it was free to revoke scoutmaster Dale's membership because it did not want to accommodate homosexuals. Massachusetts law made the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Boston a public accommodation, and yet the parade's organizers were free to refuse to include an Irish-American homosexual group in the parade. In both cases, the homosexuals were excluded because the private persons in charge of the public accommodation didn't want them.

    States cannot broaden the definition of "public accommodation" to include every imaginable organization or business, and then force those organizations and businesses to enter into contracts with everyone who wants to have dealings with them. The Christian owners of the Hitching Post, for example, did not want to let homosexuals use the wedding chapel they ran as a business--and they didn't have to.

    The proponents of the homosexual agenda have taken an old common-law provision meant to keep travelers from freezing to death because innkeepers denied them lodgings, and tried to make it into a weapon to bully private persons in all sorts of commercial endeavors into contracting to provide homosexuals various goods and services against their will.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Those signs are meaningless. Putting up such a sign does not give a business the right to break the law.
    You know who they're not meaningless to? The people making a fortune making and selling those things. They're everywhere.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    It is not a law. You are confusing Sangha's views with "Law". The two dont always equate. As I have stated, I have seen baggy pants wearing people ordered to leave and change clothes. The refusal of service was lawful. So would a refusal to serve me while wearing a CSA uniform.

    Do an experiment: Enter a shopping mall as a legitimate shopper while wearing Waffen SS "wear". Then tell them that they cant lawfully refuse you entry. Let me know how it goes.... .
    In some types of businesses, dress codes are allowed. In others, it is not.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Why do I get the feeling that you look down with disdain at the entire civil rights movement as well.....I can just imagine the disgust you felt with blacks parading around telling the whole world and demanding acceptance. Wow......bigotry is alive and well.
    Right....I disagree the Homosexual plight has anything to do with the civil rights movement. Guess I'm a bigot.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    everyone i know around here is outraged, so don't be so quick to paint the whole state with a broad brush. stickers are going up everywhere making it clear that everyone is welcome. Pence is the worst governor Indiana has had in my lifetime. unfortunately a majority voted for these dip****s or didn't vote; i think turnout was like twenty five percent. hopefully, more people will get off of their asses in 2016 and vote these ****ers out for ruining Indiana's reputation.

    boycotts will do more harm than good, too. major employers and small businesses lobbied against this stupid bill, but they were ignored. they don't deserve to be boycotted, and people who don't even support this don't deserve to lose their jobs because of it.

    what can you do that will help? write, email and call those ****ers at the statehouse until the ****ing phone lines melt. and don't stop when the media stops covering it. keep it up. eventually, they'll have to cave.
    It's clear the business community did oppose this garbage, but unfortunately the reality when dealing with nutjob conservatives, every major boycott will have the effect of many thousands of phone calls. They show little evidence of giving the first damn about (especially outside) public opinion, but they will usually listen to their sugar daddies and business supporters.

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