Page 47 of 320 FirstFirst ... 3745464748495797147 ... LastLast
Results 461 to 470 of 3196

Thread: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

  1. #461
    Sage
    Taylor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    US
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:32 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    5,491

    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Atiya View Post
    Unfortunately, Mankind is imperfect. We are maturing, however, even though it looks at the time as if we're retrograding. A decade ago the thought of same sex marriages were unheard of and a couple of decades ago, most Gays were still in the closet. Our culture has come a long way with still much to learn.
    I tend to view things quite differently. I don't see mankind moving forward and backward on some sort of developmental pathway. I see a culture that is constantly adapting to meet whatever natural or societal exigencies exist at the time. Cultures that do this well tend to fluorish, whereas those that do not are weakened or disappear altogether. What we judge to be "right" or "progress" is part of this as well, and certainly subject to change.

  2. #462
    Professor

    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Last Seen
    02-18-17 @ 10:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    1,828

    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    That's not the issue. The issue is why. If the photographer said he was already booked, there would be no problem. If the photographer says "I can't do it because Jesus wants me to marginalize people who are born like you.", that's were the issue is.
    I don't recall anyone ever saying that, but if the photographer simply declines the business, that's liberty

  3. #463
    Professor

    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Last Seen
    02-18-17 @ 10:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    1,828

    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You talk about discrimination as if you think it's a bad thing.
    Discrimination is part of liberty

  4. #464
    Sage
    chromium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A2
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:25 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    15,884

    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    What an utter waste of time and cash. There is no way this wont be challenged and no will it will be allowed to stand by the courts. Basically this yokel is wasting taxpayers cash to try and ginny up some political support. Shame the taxpayers will suffer due to this BS.
    Not only that but there's plenty precedent to know how the courts will handle challenges. Cases where "RFRA" actually succeeds in allowing discrimination in cities/counties where it's already illegal and few and far between.

    So to cater to bigot voters the governor is sacrificing a huge amount of industry. That mentality is exactly why the midwest is crumbling into the next bible belt

  5. #465
    Sage
    chromium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A2
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:25 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    15,884

    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    How do the businesses find out they are gay?

    "A homosexual, an atheist, a vegan, and a crossfitter walk into a bar...I only know because they told everyone within two minutes."
    Please, the kind of trash who push for these laws live in shanty towns where everyone knows everyone

  6. #466
    Sage
    chromium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A2
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:25 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    15,884

    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Yes, exactly. The federal government's power to intrude on the rights of business owners in this area is very limited in scope. The only reason they have any power at all is because of some creative interpretation of the interstate commerce clause.
    and you know, the civil rights act

    the south will never live down jim crow, and indiana will never live this down either

  7. #467
    Sage
    chromium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A2
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:25 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    15,884

    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Nope, it "flew" this morning. Pence signed it into law several hours ago.
    No it did not. Out of 20 states with these "RFRA" i can't even find a handful of cases where the laws were successfully upheld in court challenges. See, it turns out there is a compelling governmental interest to not allow license to discriminate laws. All the douchebag governor accomplished is to make his state hated and avoided

  8. #468
    Sage
    chromium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A2
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:25 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    15,884

    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Just saw this thread, a good friend of mine who lives in Fairmount Indiana, has medical insurance and happens to be gay was just refused service this morning at a physicians office. In his own words. ****ing disgusting.
    If he lives in one of the 12 counties that ban sexuality discrimination, tell him to sue. Even if not, he can sue, as the law is unconstitutional

  9. #469
    Sage
    Hicup's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Last Seen
    03-22-17 @ 01:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    7,741

    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Wow, I actually read this entire thread. 47 pages of it, no lie. Since my side won the debate, I will choose not to suffer you all with my opinions, but I would like to say that AGENTJ is so awesome!

    Who was it that scared him off? Henrin? Good work man!


    Tim-
    “When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.” - P. J. O’Rourke
    “Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money” Margaret Thatcher

  10. #470
    Sage
    chromium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A2
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:25 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    15,884

    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    This sounds like another state version of the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act, although I didn't see that specified in the article. It's not clear how far states can expand the protection of the Free Exercise Clause beyond what the Supreme Court has held it protects. I don't see why it is not enough just to omit sexual orientation from the list of grounds on which discrimination by public accommodations is prohibited by the state law.
    Because the rural ****holes in the state want to force the 12 more enlightened counties to allow such discrimination. Where is the "states' rights" crowd now in calling for the rights of counties and cities to determine their own values?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •