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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Libertarians who subscribe to Anarcho-capitalist beliefs do indeed support libertarian dictatorships. If you're going to slap "Libertarian" into your lean you'd do well to at least know a little bit about how it works because you make all 'Tarians look bad on this forum.
    I was not aware a community based around voluntary interaction and membership was a dictatorship. Maybe you can enlighten me on this incredibly bizarre conclusion of yours.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Because the people have delegated the power to regulate businesses but not the power to regulate shoppers.
    Ok then. I'm calling for the end of customer discrimination. People should be forced to shop at certain stores a certain number of times each week and spend a certain amount of money to ensure the market is unhindered, and no-one is discriminated against.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They're future workers.
    And? If alcohol stops people from working, shouldn't you just ban it so no-one misses work due to alcoholism?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Ok then. I'm calling for the end of customer discrimination. People should be forced to shop at certain stores a certain number of times each week and spend a certain amount of money to ensure the market is unhindered, and no-one is discriminated against.
    And if you convince enough people, you can get a constitutional amendment passed enabling such laws. That's how it works in a constitutional democracy

    Good luck.

    in the meantime, you're SOL
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    I'm curious - do those who promote the right of owners in businesses to discriminate and choose who they'll accept as customers differentiate between a business where an owner is simply selling a product as opposed to one where the owner is selling him/herself? Is there a difference in your minds between a coffee shop owner selling coffee and muffins and a catering service preparing and serving food at an event?

    The reason I ask is because I see a large difference and if we're talking strictly about the sale of a product "off the self" then I would say that no discrimination of any kind should ever be allowed. However, if we are talking about the sale of oneself - in effect, contracting the owner as an individual to perform a particular task unique to the particular customer, then I would personally be more receptive to declining the contract. But still I would personally be opposed to being allowed to decline the contract based on the client's person rather than on the terms of the contract.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And if you convince enough people, you can get a constitutional amendment passed enabling such laws. That's how it works in a constitutional democracy

    Good luck.
    And you see nothing wrong with it so long as it's legal?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by freeRadical View Post
    So.... The exact opposite of Liberty. Got it.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    And? If alcohol stops people from working, shouldn't you just ban it so no-one misses work due to alcoholism?
    It's not a matter of stopping people from working.

    Alcohol has physiological effects that minors are not able to consent to.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It's not a matter of stopping people from working.

    Alcohol has physiological effects that minors are not able to consent to.
    So keep it illegal for them to drink, just make it legal for them to purchase it so that commerce isn't hindered.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    And you see nothing wrong with it so long as it's legal?
    Whether or not I see something wrong with it is immaterial.

    I think it's wrong when it rains when I planned on doing something outdoors that required nice weather, but it rains anyway. That's how the weather works.

    And in a constitutional democracy, you can get the govt to do anything, but only if you get enough people to agree with you. That's how our govt works.

    And if you think that people should not be able to have the govt they want to have, but only be allowed to have the govt you think they should be allowed to have, then you are just as coercive and dismissive of "liberty" as anyone else.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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