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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    What right has been trampled?
    We've moved passed this. You may want to read the thread and catch up instead of trying to drag everyone backwards.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    It is a public business.
    So you favor repealing all Civil Rights laws that pertain to color. Hey why not throw in disabilities as well?
    A business is obligated only to those with a stake in it. If I, as a customer, can refuse to shop at a store owned by Christians, why can't black people refuse to serve me because I'm white?

    And why do medical services get a pass?
    Because they're a tad more important than buying lipstick.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    Allowing minors to drink hinders commerce.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    We've moved passed this. You may want to read the thread and catch up instead of trying to drag everyone backwards.
    So basically you don't have a response. Thanks.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Healthcare is a service. A privately owned hospital is absolutely a business.

    There are public hospitals.
    Healthcare is not just another service. Forcing a critically sick or injured person to seek out the hospital which does not discriminate against them or to leave a hospital at which they were turned away because they are __________ (fill in the blank), could have life threatening consequences. Even if a person is not in critical condition, getting to another hospital could be a barrier to a necessary service and that person's health could suffer.

    The three hospitals in my general area are all private and operated by the same corporation. I would have to travel almost an hour to the nearest not-for-profit hospital. To permit discrimination in healthcare related services is unconscionable.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by freeRadical View Post
    What is the correct application of coercion?
    They are numerous. One example is to coerce a business to allow the free-flow of commerce when there is no demonstrable harm, under threat of revoking their business license.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    A business is obligated only to those with a stake in it. If I, as a customer, can refuse to shop at a store owned by Christians, why can't black people refuse to serve me because I'm white?
    Because the people have delegated to the govt the power to regulate businesses but not the power to regulate shoppers.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    How so?
    They're future workers.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    They are numerous. One example is to coerce a business to allow the free-flow of commerce when there is no demonstrable harm, under threat of revoking their business license.
    So.... The exact opposite of Liberty. Got it.
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