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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    Businesses have no right to hinder commerce unless a customer is harming the business. A free-flowing economy is the healthiest, which makes for a stronger nation. Keep your personal biases at home.
    So remove the obligation for liquor stores to discriminate by age, after all, they're hindering commerce by discriminating against over a quarter of the population.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    The Christian bakers refused, and now are out of business. Reality mugs you again.


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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    How does abortion fit in with this law? How about birth control? Someone shows up at a drug store wanting to buy condoms. But the person behind the counter doesn't want to sell them to you based on his/her religion. How about selling prescriptions to divorcees? Or atheists?

    This will get shot down in the courts, but it will be interesting to see how far this does and how much damage Pence will do to his state before it gets overturned.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Try talking about the issue this thread is about.
    What right has been trampled? The right to force other people to trade with you?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by freeRadical View Post
    I see you are okay with coercion and force.
    A redundant statement as coercion includes the use of force, but yes I support correct application of coercion in many, many ways.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    So remove the obligation for liquor stores to discriminate by age, after all, they're hindering commerce by discriminating against over a quarter of the population.
    Allowing minors to drink hinders commerce.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    OK, if you want to avoid the point, that's fine. But again, there is no harm when you make a choice as a consumer. When a business discriminates it is the opposite of choice and the harm is easily identifiable.
    How? If someone doesn't provide you a service they have not altered your condition. How were you harmed?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Try talking about the issue this thread is about.
    I am. Freedom of Association and Freedom of Contract.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Allowing minors to drink hinders commerce.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    A redundant statement as coercion includes the use of force, but yes I support correct application of coercion in many, many ways.
    Coercion doesn't always require force. What is the correct application of coercion?
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