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Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

Where were they fightin against anything? They were asked a dumb question designed to do exactly what it did. Spark outrage, and demonize a group of people in the process.

they demonize themselves by opening their mouths
 
lol

Steven Crowder. :lamo


Love the part about how Mooslums might blow him up in the cake shop.


An actual picture of Steven Crowder (no, I'm not kidding)

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Yes, we know Mr. Crowder, we know.

That pic was from him exposing the Hypocrisy of the left.

HERE is his video on gay wedding cakes...
 
they demonize themselves by opening their mouths

How is it demonizing to say that they prefer not to participate in something that violates their conscience? I wonder if you feel the same about those that consciously object to fighting in a war?
 
I agree it is the right of a business owner to make dumbass policies but why fight against a law that has the potential to increase one's customer base?

because they hate lgbt that much, no other conceivable reason
 
How is it demonizing to say that they prefer not to participate in something that violates their conscience? I wonder if you feel the same about those that consciously object to fighting in a war?

When a business signs up for a business license to sell to the public and agrees to abide by the municipal laws that go along with that privilege.

A conscientious objector who was conscripted didn't sign up for anything - except being born. That conscientious objector *still* must serve the government in some capacity - Their religious belief does not relieve them of mandatory government service.
 
When a business signs up for a business license to sell to the public and agrees to abide by the municipal laws that go along with that privilege.

A conscientious objector who was conscripted didn't sign up for anything - except being born. That conscientious objector *still* must serve the government in some capacity - Their religious belief does not relieve them of mandatory government service.

You know, the business license exists for taxing purposes, not to establish consent to obey laws.
 
When a business signs up for a business license to sell to the public and agrees to abide by the municipal laws that go along with that privilege.

A conscientious objector who was conscripted didn't sign up for anything - except being born. That conscientious objector *still* must serve the government in some capacity - Their religious belief does not relieve them of mandatory government service.
Conscientious objector's previously registered for the draft and subjected themselves to induction
 
That's the way it worked. You registered for the draft, subsequently you might have been drafted

CO's for the most part did not register for the draft.

Those that did were compelled by the gov't to do so.

When do you think Selective Service actually began?

Bonus question: What happened to the CO's in WWI who refused to cooperate in any way with the military?


Either way, the CO analogy *sucks*
 
CO's for the most part did not register for the draft.

Those that did were compelled by the gov't to do so.

When do you think Selective Service actually began?

Bonus question: What happened to the CO's in WWI who refused to cooperate in any way with the military?


Either way, the CO analogy *sucks*
Conscientious Objector is a status one received after induction. Those that didn't register for the draft were draft dodgers, not conscientious objectors
 
Conscientious Objector is a status one received after induction.
Those that didn't register for the draft were draft dodgers, not conscientious objectors

Utah Mormons like Romney had an over-abundance of church exemptions during Vietnam, as you know.
Leaving a higher percentage of Utah draftees to be from poor white families who didn't go to college.
It became a public cause in Utah, as you also know .
 
Yet I wasn't drafted in 1972 when I was #32---know why--it was an election year--see where the cynicism come from?
First year there was no 2S deferment--how convenient for Kissinger/Nixon to get reelected.
So along came the National Guard of 1972--seven years worth--while I was 1H for seven years and didn't join up.

Here in Illinois, Quincy was the only National Guard unit to go to Vietnam.
When you come up I-55 North of Springfield, there's a rest area at mile marker 109 that flies a POW-MIA flag on both sides of the Interstate.
With names of soldiers who didn't make it back and are unaccounted for.
Btw, I do belong to our Sons of American Legion--I love the old guys .

That's the way it worked. You registered for the draft, subsequently you might have been drafted
 
Utah Mormons like Romney had an over-abundance of church exemptions during Vietnam, as you know.
Leaving a higher percentage of Utah draftees to be from poor white families who didn't go to college.
It became a public cause in Utah, as you also know .
Mormons didn't have exemptions, they had deferments. A deferment allowed Mormons the time they required to do their mission obligation after which they became 1A
 
Yet I wasn't drafted in 1972 when I was #32---know why--it was an election year--see where the cynicism come from?
First year there was no 2S deferment--how convenient for Kissinger/Nixon to get reelected.
So along came the National Guard of 1972--seven years worth--while I was 1H for seven years and didn't join up.

Here in Illinois, Quincy was the only National Guard unit to go to Vietnam.
When you come up I-55 North of Springfield, there's a rest area at mile marker 109 that flies a POW-MIA flag on both sides of the Interstate.
With names of soldiers who didn't make it back and are unaccounted for.
Btw, I do belong to our Sons of American Legion--I love the old guys .
I got drafted in '69 before there was a draft lottery. Now what does that have to do with conscientious objector's?
 
Conscientious Objector is a status one received after induction. Those that didn't register for the draft were draft dodgers, not conscientious objectors

CO status goes back to our founding, we're not just talking about your little vacuum mid-20th century world -- but the history of this country.

You didn't answer my questions:


When do you think Selective Service actually began?

Bonus question: What happened to the CO's in WWI who refused to cooperate in any way with the military?
 
When a business signs up for a business license to sell to the public and agrees to abide by the municipal laws that go along with that privilege.

A conscientious objector who was conscripted didn't sign up for anything - except being born. That conscientious objector *still* must serve the government in some capacity - Their religious belief does not relieve them of mandatory government service.

I wasn't talking about conscripted members of a military....here in America we have an all voluntary force. However, they are still able to conscientiously object and not get sent to war. So tell me, why is it that you had to make your argument by changing the parameter to a conscripted individual? Was it because that if you kept it to a volunteer force scenerio then my analogy would be spot on, and you'd know that all this bluster over the faux outrage by the LGBT's along with the liberal antagonists would be revealed for the absolute rubbish it is?
 
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