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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It's almost as comical as this law meaning that black families won't be able to buy food on their family vacations in Indiana, and gay people being locked away out of public site, and nobody but middle aged white Christian men being able to get gas at all of the gas stations in Indiana, and doctors refusing to treat gay men who need medical care.
    Sadly, there are several on this forum who would support all of that, and quite a large percentage of middle americans and southerners. Lets not forget that poll taken on Republicans in Mississippi in which half of them said they would support a law banning interracial marriage. But wait, Republicans are supposed to be the party of "freedom".

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Go to Indiana and open a business then phone the local media and announce you will not serve the Pollocks.

    See what happens
    I think I'd starve - who cares about white ethnics? Better to tell the local media that I REFUSE to serve any lesbian black disabled muslim females. I would quote Sara Silvermans jokes about how they stink, but they don't know it because no one can smell themselves. And hang a few swastika's, play Deutschland Uber Alles in the lobby as background music, and nail up a few posters making fun of Kenyans, Mohammad, and Michelle Obama.

    Finally, I'd brag that I refuse to recycle, use plastic grocery bags, and are a proud recruiter for the KKK.

    If I was not drawn, quartered and burned, it could be fun.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    All the homos have to do is NOT ADVERTISE THAT THEY ARE GAY, and nobody in Indiana will know, or care.

    All Indiana is saying is, go ahead and practice your unnatural sexual lifestyles behind closed doors. Just don't advertise it or expect special "rights" in our state!

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Isn't that special! Homosexuals are so special. Especially the ones that are just so damned proud that they're not breeders that they make sure everyone knows that it's their defining characteristic. It's just.. well... special. Superduper extra special. Like my brother tries to tell me all the time. Homosexuals like him have been responsible for all the great things in society because they don't have to be bothered with breeding expectations like those boring and tedious cisgender (lol) types.
    glad we're in agreement then

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Again. He claims it was because of DADT. In reality, it was his own discomfort and the discomfort of other guys about having to serve with gay men, which they were almost certainly already doing without knowing it. The difference was that the gay guys didn't have to lie to get in, get that opportunity to serve their country, and however shallow it may seem, get that opportunity to get the great benefits like steady pay, healthcare, 20 year full retirement, college money, and much more. Straight men and women prior to DADT could do so without having to lie about who they were attracted to, gay men and women couldn't. After DADT, the lying wasn't as overt, rather more of just hiding who they were with a little less worry if someone only suspected they were gay (and that was dependent on what job you had).

    My husband was a Marine, out there in the deserts, joining after DADT was in place, with the least of his worries being "oh my god that guy is gay or might be gay". He was a sailor when it was repealed and again not really much of an issue. Even more of "not an issue" for me in the Navy reserves. We had one guy during the training question berthing arrangements and there were people from the rest of the unit basically telling him to get over it, he wouldn't be required to sleep naked with any man, gay or straight if he didn't want to.
    Everyone in his unit had their suspicions about the guy. DADT meant they weren't addressed and one night my buddy wakes up because someone is undoing his zipper. That was very bad for morale. I believe him.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Families are families. There is really no objective ideal, perfect, or "optimal" family, whether traditional or non-traditional families. All sorts of families work just as well at raising children, including same sex parented families, where the parents actually are in a relationship as well as families were two or more people of the same sex are raising children while not in a relationship. Mainly, there are just factors that tend to cause issues with children, and not having a person of a certain sex in the household parenting has never been shown to be one of those factors.
    I disagree, because of the data that is out there. Two parent households, where both parents are active in raising a child, where the child is breast fed, etc tend to have the least amount negative outcomes. This can and has been studied.

    Stats are not predictive of any particular individual-but thats now how stats work.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Everyone in his unit had their suspicions about the guy. DADT meant they weren't addressed and one night my buddy wakes up because someone is undoing his zipper. That was very bad for morale. I believe him.
    Had suspicions that he was gay or that he would sexually assault someone? See this is the issue. Your buddy or yourself are wrongfully assuming that being gay automatically increases a persons likelihood of sexually assaulting a person, even if the same sex. That isn't reality. Plenty of straight people have sexually assaulted members of the same sex. The vast majority of gay men and women would not sexually assault anyone, ever. Just like the vast majority of straight men and women. Even if you looked at percentages, rather than numbers, this is true.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I disagree, because of the data that is out there. Two parent households, where both parents are active in raising a child, where the child is breast fed, etc tend to have the least amount negative outcomes. This can and has been studied.

    Stats are not predictive of any particular individual-but thats now how stats work.
    And that would mean the opposite factors, having a single parent household, having uninvolved parents, no breastfeeding (which actually should be studied better to determine if there was a real issue or if the mother gave up really quickly or if the mother simply didn't want to try, which could really show it going back to how involved the parent(s) are rather than the actual breastfeeding itself), and other things, such as a lack of stable relationship or divorce, cause issues, as I said.

    No study has concluded that having the only factor in parenting different when raising children being the relative genders of the parents causes any negative outcomes. In similar parenting situations, gender of the parents simply is not a factor.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    Stupid Republicans. Neither federal nor other states have this "fix". LOL... The gay rights lobby screams that this bill is different and needs fixed, and the pea-brained Republicans fix it by adding restrictive language that is actually different and not written anywhere else. Kudos to the gay rights lobby...sort of.

    Because the Gay rights lobby is none to bright either. Had they suggested to the GOP pinheads that they would rather have Indiana adopt a state-wide law prohibiting discrimination of gays, in return for a some kind of religious exemption it would have been a win-win.

    So - the bill's "fix" is to allow discrimination anyway, but if only there were a general law banning discrimination of gays THEN this bill could not be used as a defense. In short, you don't need a religious exemption IF there is no law against discrimination it to begin with.

    Welcome to American politics.
    I suspect that even if such a win-win were proposed, that it would have been soundly rejected by the LGBT lobby and activists.

    If you have been following mass media over the past few days, you will have learned from an economist at the U.S. Department of Labor that defenders of religious freedom are “Nazis.” Take a moment to ponder that assertion. Roll it around in your head for a while. You’ll be hearing a lot more fighting words as we enter the next phase of Christian life in America.

    Sample the hate that has been spewed at the state of Indiana in the past week, and faithful Christians in recent years, by gay activists and their allies. We are “bigots,” “Neanderthals” and “haters,” whose views must be ritually rejected by anyone hoping to keep a job in today’s America — even in a Catholic high school. Where will this end? Is there a logical stopping point for this aggression, where Christians are left in peace?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by ggwilder View Post
    All the homos have to do is NOT ADVERTISE THAT THEY ARE GAY, and nobody in Indiana will know, or care.

    All Indiana is saying is, go ahead and practice your unnatural sexual lifestyles behind closed doors. Just don't advertise it or expect special "rights" in our state!
    How childish.
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