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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Nah. You're just making false outrage a full time job. The law in question did not invalidate other anti-discrimination statutes.
    It absolutely did. That is exactly how it differs from the Federal laws. Sorry.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It absolutely did. That is exactly how it differs from the Federal laws. Sorry.
    Show me where.

    Text of Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Read the highlighted carefully.

    Today in Politics: Indiana Law Deepens Strain Between Republicans and Business

    Walmart, Apple, Eli Lilly and General Electric may be vastly different companies, but they have at least one thing in common: opposition to the Republican-backed legislation described by proponents as religious freedom laws that have brought a backlash to Indiana and Arkansas....

    Jeffrey R. Immelt, the chief executive of General Electric and a frequent Republican donor,...

    Cook Medical, which was founded by the billionaire Gayle Cook, a big Republican donor in Indiana, ... “We value diversity at all levels.”

    Walmart’s foray into a social issue and its call for Gov. Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas to veto his state’s bill was the most surprising. Jim Walton, a son of the company’s founder, donated...
    That is a very curious reply to my comments. Recall that I explained that the (left-gay) lunatic axe-grinders are manipulating and misrepresenting the issue, and that its overdue that the critics be honest with themselves and the public. I pointed out that their claim of the law 'giving protection to discrimination' is a red herring. And I stated that their real motives are - the desire to remove religious exemptions from Americans for any reason and express rage that Indiana does not have a general law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

    Having exposed their lies and red herring, you eagerly quote the self-interested opinions (delusions) of either the spineless, ignorant, or dishonest corporate based donors to Republicans. Not only is it irrelevant to my claim, it seems that you are projecting.

    Contrary to your (likely) image of conservatives, and unlike liberals, we are not awed by figures of social authority. We are not impressed with the left's adoration of "might makes right" or "we won" as the basis of a political philosophy. And we are not surprised at the cynical left's excoriation of corporations as "not people" and "greedy businesses that only care about profits at any cost" AND THEN their deftness in cynically trotting out these figures of hate - as if these same corporations were NOW comrades of disinterested altruism on behalf of the oppressed!

    You have confirmed what conservatives already knew: big business does not give a hoot about religious liberty, and is always willing to sell the rope that will be used by the mob to hang them with.

    Now do you have a real argument against the points I made, or is this it?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    I think that Tammy Bruce has a number of pertinent points here.
    In contrast, talk-radio host Tammy Bruce said Wednesday in a tweet: “As a gay woman, I’m appalled by GOP inability to defend religious freedom & disgusted by how liberal gays have turned into common bullies.”

    On her radio show Wednesday, she commented on the report of the Indiana pizza shop owners.

    “The left is trying to burn down businesses that do not comply,” Bruce told her radio listeners.

    She pointed out that the businesses owned by religious believers that have been targeted in lawsuits have not turned away gays, “they’re just not going to cater or facilitate weddings.”

    Bruce juxtaposed the outcry by the homosexual rights activists opposing the Indiana law with their virtual silence about atrocities against homosexuals in the Middle East.

    “If you’re worried about whether someone is going to bake you a cake, because everything’s got to be about you, than you are about child weddings with terrorists, the flogging of rape victims and the murder of gays by the state, you’ve got your priorities a little screwed up,” she told her listeners.

    Chastising the media, she wrote in a tweet: “Pizza shop that won’t cater a gay wedding is bigger news than Iranian official restating their intent to wipe Israel off the map. Got it.”
    ‘'Gay'-rights advocates back Indiana law - 'Despite all the rhetoric, it's about religious freedom'

    Seems the LGBT community isn't unified against this law at all. Just the extremists in that group.

    So we have what amounts to the LGBT mafia, using bullying and propaganda aided by the Biased Lame Stream Media both being dishonest in the continued reporting of the false meme that this law enables businesses to discriminate against LGBT or anyone else. It does not.

    This just limits what government can impose on someone in the face of their religious beliefs, a concept in and of itself which has been signed into law at the federal level for many years as well as the majority of states in one form or another.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Right makes might.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Has Tammy Bruce ever met an anti-gay argument she didn't agree with?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    That is a very curious reply to my comments. I explained that the (left-gay) lunatic axe-grinders are manipulating and misrepresenting the issue, and that its overdue that the critics be honest with themselves and the public. I pointed out that their claim of the law 'giving protection to discrimination' is a red herring. And I stated the the real issue(s) are - the desire to remove religious exemptions from Americans for any reason and the resentment that Indiana does not have a general law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

    Having exposed the lies, you eagerly quote the self-interested opinions (delusions) of either the spineless, ignorant, or dishonest corporate based donors to Republicans. Might it be that you are projecting?

    Contrary to your (likely) image of conservatives, and unlike liberals, we are not awed by figures of social authority. We are not impressed with the left's adoration of "might makes right" or "we won" as the basis of a political philosophy. And we are not are surprised at the cynical left excoriation of corporations as "not people" and "greedy businesses that only care about profits at any cost" AND THEN cynically trotting out them out as if these same corporations were NOW comrades of disinterested altruism on behalf of the oppressed.

    You have confirmed what conservatives already knew: big business does not give a hoot about religious liberty, and is always willing to sell the rope that will be used by the mob to hang them with.

    Now do you have a real argument against the points I made, or is this it?
    Ah yes. Anyone who disagrees is mindless and spineless. Is that what you're saying? The CEO's and their army of lawyers of Apple and Walmart are so stupid and spineless that they are being manipulated by the left? BTW the REPUBLICAN mayor of Indianapolis begged Pence BEFORE he signed to bill not to sign it. So it's not just the evil liberals and the spineless CEO's, but it's also some some Republican politicians right in the state who sees this bill for what it is.

    Speaking of spineless. For once I would love to see a modern day conservative take the blame for something. Instead of always pointing fingers at the left, or the liberal media, it's always someone elses fault. Simply admit Pence and Hutchinson and the Republicans in the states governments screwed up. They wrote crappy bills that were too broad and vague and then tried to say their bills mirrored the Fed RFRA, but they do not mirror the Fed bill. And they got caught. They need to fix the bills and move on.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Yep - the oppression of the bigots is somethin' fearful in this nation, what with the internment camps, forced labour and the requirement to wear badges or post signs stating who one hates.
    Maybe it won't be long before one has to bear a mark of identification in order to engage in business where only those ascribing to the liberal ideology will bear that mark

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It absolutely did. That is exactly how it differs from the Federal laws. Sorry.
    Yes, show us where. Can't find it...hmmmmmm?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Well, we've been treated to just how that poster feels about that:

    Originally Posted by Blemonds
    The discrimination against blacks was codified in the law. Discrimination against blacks by a private party or business should be perfectly legal just as discrimination against any person should be."
    Discrimination is part of liberty. Not everyone is prepared to actually be free

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