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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I have to disagree with you here.

    Do you also believe that private businesses should be allowed to exercise similar employment discrimination? It's the obvious extension/conclusion.
    Yes

    Likewise, do you believe that a city or municipality should be able to discriminate about who can operate a private business? How far down the slope do you want to slide?
    Exactly there is the limit. The privilege/right belongs only to private entities. Government agencies and those employees on the clock are the only ones that should be forbidden to discriminate.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What annoys me about the movement is that they don't just demand acceptance, but demand that you agree with them on the issues. That annoys me.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Jesus wouldn't refuse service to sinners.
    Which only proves the point that those who do so in Jesus' name really aren't Christians, but CINO's
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    These threads are always so happy.

    Why does anyone care about what other people's bedroom preferences are? And why does anyone share or think anyone should know what his/her bedroom preferences are? Why would a baker care who a customer is attracted to? Why does someone think his baker needs to know who he's attracted to?

    Carry on.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Hate is a great powerful tool. It unifies the GOP base. The GOP base hates gays more then they are willing to vote for their own interests. And that's exactly how the anti-gay Republican politicians like it.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    These threads are always so happy.

    Why does anyone care about what other people's bedroom preferences are? And why does anyone share or think anyone should know what his/her bedroom preferences are? Why would a baker care who a customer is attracted to? Why does someone think his baker needs to know who he's attracted to?

    Carry on.
    Good question, and it goes both ways.

    Why do we care what the owner of chick-filet’s opinion is? Does the chicken taste different because of it?

    People are free to discriminate against chick-filet. I don’t get why they would, but I am not going to force them to stop.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    False again. That is not the government discriminating, that is the business owner discriminating - the government basically says treat all customers equally - whatever you offer for sale to one customer, you must offer for sale to another customer.
    Actually what they are saying is that if a customer wants to refuse a business transaction based upon the business owner's race, gender, creed, sexuality, etc then they may do so, but the business owner cannot do the same in return. Sounds like you favor discrimination in one direction but not the other.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    lets recap the facts

    there are no laws forcing or compelling anybody to do business with gays or genders, races, sexual orientations, religions etc
    there is no right to service
    there is no force to accept gays or genders, races, sexual orientations, religions etc
    there is no force to serve gays or genders, races, sexual orientations, religions etc
    example.

    I make widgets and I make the best dam widgets money can buy. Thornton Melon is one of my financers!

    I make the big, small, fat and skinny. I make them in any color and out of many materials.

    Business is great and its boomng

    A person (pick thier gender, race, sexual orientation and religion) walks in and they want 200K widgets by april 5th.
    lets go with Black, female, muslim, lesbian, republican who works at an abortion clinic
    I deny her business because Im booked and cant possible make her deadline, my stock is tight as it is and she'll have to get her widgets from somewhere else
    perfectly legal and i wasn't forced to do business with her in any way because she was gay or anything else and I said NO because ther is no force

    another person (pick thier gender, race, sexual orientation and religion) walks in and wants 500 widgets by april 4th
    lets go with white, male, Christian, conservative, who is a KKK member and he told me he wants the widgets to set on fire in the shape of "no -n-words welcome" at his next rally. I refuse because i am again busy and i would never sell my widgets to be used for firewood.
    perfectly legal and i wasn't forced to do business with her in any way because he was christian or anything else and i said NO because there is no force

    Facts win again

    there are no laws forcing or compelling anybody to do business with gays or genders, races, sexual orientations, religions etc
    there is no right to service
    there is no force to accept gays or genders, races, sexual orientations, religions etc
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Good question, and it goes both ways.

    Why do we care what the owner of chick-filet’s opinion is? Does the chicken taste different because of it?

    People are free to discriminate against chick-filet. I don’t get why they would, but I am not going to force them to stop.
    Yes that was sort of my point. I don't want to know who someone else loves. I don't want to know that someone else doesn't approve of who I love. I don't want to know I think everyone should keep this **** to themselves. I don't care what a business owner thinks of John & Jim if I'm going to him to bake me a cake. I only care that he's clean, his ingredients are fresh, and he washed his hands before he made my cake. I don't think John & Jim should care about what the baker thinks of them. I don't think the baker should think of them and what they do in their private time. This isn't the ****ing middle ages where adults made decisions on who married who.

    How the hell this has become such a rabidly angry issue on both sides is beyond me. I don't care who loves who any more than I cared about who approved of my choice of husband or didn't approve, as the case may be.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    These threads are always so happy.

    Why does anyone care about what other people's bedroom preferences are? And why does anyone share or think anyone should know what his/her bedroom preferences are? Why would a baker care who a customer is attracted to? Why does someone think his baker needs to know who he's attracted to?

    Carry on.
    This thread isn't about bedroom practices, but business practices. Please stay on topic.

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