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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Evidence of this claim. The laws say otherwise.
    I practice, there is no such law, and if there is a view that they are poor candidates for treatment or procedures, based on factors like history, they can absolutely have services withheld.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'm absolutely amazed at the unforced errors of the GOP since they won the election.
    It's clear to me that the executive order by Obama completely unnerved the GOP--you're astute enough to see this.

    The Coats seat is certainly up for grabs in Indiana now.

    DEMs have two problems in my mind right now, besides the swift-boating of Hillary.
    1. How to sort out all the GOP guffaws since the election.
    2. Beginning early on with their bash ads, just as the Kochs did in the summer of 2013 .
    Nimby, you thought the dems were going to win the last mid terms and we saw how that turned out.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually I totally agree with you even if I don't live there. I feel personally that the boycotts of the state, as a whole, are uncalled for. A better thing to do would be to support the businesses that say openly "we serve everyone", that have no discriminatory practices. And boycott the government if you must. Now, I personally have no reason to travel to Indiana, so I won't likely be going there any time soon enough to put these into practice myself. Now, this all being said, I can understand the businesses though that have halted their plans to expand into Indiana due to this law. They seem to be trying to protect their employees, rather than to make a political statement. This type of law could cause issues with their employees who are gay, to the point where they lose talented professionals simply because others aren't treating them fairly within the community.
    are there any business that are actually discriminating against gays in Indiana.. or fighting for the right to?

    are there any who discriminate and are planning to move to Indiana?

    I think people in haste to argue that this law is going to make the gay sky fall forgot to check if there is actually a problem afoot.
    personally, I'd wager about 99.99999999999999999% of Indianans would act correct, regardless of this law....I can't fathom that whole state being chock full of anti-gay bigots just chomping at the bit waiting for a "permit" to discriminate.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    if you travel here, go to the dunes in Chesterton. that is one of my favorite places in the world. as for all of this other bull****, it is mostly just making me tired. i have to fight off idiots on both sides who want to bend this into their go team two party worldview. it's just so ****ing stupid. there are actually a lot of cool things to do here, and pretty things to see.
    hogwash... you're state is full of anti-gay bigots who want nothing more than to deny services to gays... admit it.. ADMIT IT!!



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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    hogwash... you're state is full of anti-gay bigots who want nothing more than to deny services to gays... admit it.. ADMIT IT!!


    my state is full of folks who mostly just want to come home from work and have a beer with you at the bar. if you're ever around here, i can tell you about some cool places to check out.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    my state is full of folks who mostly just want to come home from work and have a beer with you at the bar. if you're ever around here, i can tell you about some cool places to check out.
    wierd... normal people live in Indiana.. whodathunkit?

    that's kinda my point here... this **** is getting blown waaay out of proportion... it's pretty ridiculous.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    The only GOP Presidential not "standing his ground" behind Pence is Kasich--still with 75/1 odds.

    Why do you discount the reaction of corporations and businesses WITHIN the state of Indiana?
    Those that have long stood with and donated to the GOP.

    Considering how many jobs Illinois has lost to the right-to-work-for-less Indiana, we'll gladly take some of them back.

    Elections have consequences--Indiana voters (and non-voters) chose these clowns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    are there any business that are actually discriminating against gays in Indiana.. or fighting for the right to?

    are there any who discriminate and are planning to move to Indiana?

    I think people in haste to argue that this law is going to make the gay sky fall forgot to check if there is actually a problem afoot.
    personally, I'd wager about 99.99999999999999999% of Indianans would act correct, regardless of this law....I can't fathom that whole state being chock full of anti-gay bigots just chomping at the bit waiting for a "permit" to discriminate.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    this **** is getting blown waaay out of proportion.
    By corporations and businesses WITHIN Indiana.
    Not to mention WAL-MART (hobby lobbying) the governor of Arkansas to veto the Indiana bill.
    GOPs knew they were in trouble today when NASCAR came out against them.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    A religious freedom law was passed to protect religious liberties that were never endangered and that sparked a protest of people concerned about discrimination that has not and likely will not occur.

    It sounds to me like everyone got what they wanted.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I got another lefty dream case for you-physician who refuses to write a script for abortifacients to straight people but will to gay couples.

    How would you guys handle that one?
    Doctors' faith must yield to gays' rights, court says - latimes

    Doctors may not discriminate against gays and lesbians in medical treatment, even if the procedures being sought conflict with physicians' religious beliefs, the California Supreme Court decided unanimously Monday.
    The state high court said the doctors' constitutional rights to freedom of religion did not trump the state antidiscrimination law because the state has a compelling interest in ensuring full and equal access to medical care.
    Benitez v. North Coast Women's Care Medical Group | Lambda Legal

    For nearly a year starting in August of 1999, Guadalupe "Lupita" Benitez was denied infertility treatment by the North Coast Women's Care Medical Group because she is a lesbian. Her former doctors are conservative Christians who claim their religious beliefs give them a right to withhold care from Benitez that they routinely provide to heterosexual patients. With Lambda Legal's help, Benitez has been fighting this injustice. The case is currently before the California State Supreme Court The highest state court in the state court system on the question whether individual antigay religious beliefs allow doctors to violate the state civil rights law that applies to commercial businesses, including for-profit medical clinics like North Coast Women's Care.
    Don't you "practice" in California? You probably "practice" in Baja California because the issue of sexual orientation as it concerned abortificients was settled in California 7 years ago. Unless of course you believe this ruling means that doctors can still discriminate against straights, which is laughably absurd, doctor.
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