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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    RFRA doesn't change that, as anti discrmination laws have always been held to be a compelling state interest.
    And the point is that Indiana does not include LGBT in its antidiscrimination laws, not statewide anyway.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I see your point and cede it. I was thinking of the reality that it is always one group of people that cause a particular class to be created in law.
    Is this the part of the thread where the republicans will tell you proudly -- it was THEY who help push the CRA of 1964 law through and champion with glee it was they who get to take credit for it?

    Oh yeah, that happens in the other threads.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Doesn't matter if the baker finds it offensive to sell a wedding cake to a same sex couple or not. They bake wedding cakes. They cannot therefore offer them just to opposite sex couples.

    There is still no evidence that anyone asked by that guy (who was a douche and acted completely rude and disrespectful over the phone, which would have been enough to deny service to him by itself) denied him his cake due to his religion, rather than what he wanted written on the cake. You don't have to be Christian to be against same sex marriage. There are people of every belief system, including atheists and agnostics who are against same sex marriage. So long as they would not make a cake with the words "gay marriage is wrong" on it for anyone, then they are not discriminating.
    He made it perfectly clear that the cake was for an upcoming celebration of traditional marriage. The bakers who stated they did not do same sex wedding cakes and had never done one before were considered discriminating. You can't have your cake and eat it too!

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And the point is that Indiana does not include LGBT in its antidiscrimination laws, not statewide anyway.
    Ok, so how does RFRA change anything?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hari Seldon View Post
    Sorry but I didn't say that. Perhaps if you go back and reread the thread.
    You could have just told me you were talking ABOUT Sheldon, a character on BBT, when I first QUOTED your post.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    For crying out loud are you both being purposefully dense?

    Clown boy, you said you watch Big Bang theory, so you should know who Sheldon is.

    HarinSeldon, YOU should know what the Foundation series is.

    Jesus.
    I never said or posted I didn't know what the Foundation Series is, I even gave an elaboration. Clowny is purposely being dense. He's just trying to run some interference for Logicman who I enjoy teasing. Especially when he spouts his "everyone who doesn't believe as he does is going to hell" nonsense. Not sure who Harin Seldon is though.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nonsense, and one AgentJ is enough for any forum. You weren't bandying about any facts, or even talking about this bill. I'll refresh your memory:
    What's wrong about that?


    When you said "everything" - you only meant that post?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Is this the part of the thread where the republicans will tell you proudly -- it was THEY who help push the CRA of 1964 law through and champion with glee it was they who get to take credit for it?

    Oh yeah, that happens in the other threads.
    Well, since you did it for us, thanks?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    So long as those bakers did not write those messages on cakes for anyone, then they are being "tolerant". Did they refuse to bake him a cake or cookie for his opposite sex wedding? Did they tell him that they were refusing his requested item because of his religion? No. There is no intolerance there. Taken the other way. Has a baker (in the US) been taken to court or fined or even accused of discrimination due to refusing to bake a cake with the words "gay marriage is okay" or "support gay/same sex marriage" on it?
    Did he mention religion or his religion at all?

    Let me get this straight, your premise is that if an anti-gay marriage bakers tells a someone he as a policy does not bake cakes for gay weddings, thats ok?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    He made it perfectly clear that the cake was for an upcoming celebration of traditional marriage. The bakers who stated they did not do same sex wedding cakes and had never done one before were considered discriminating. You can't have your cake and eat it too!
    That pun was the icing on the cake!

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