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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    If this bill wasn't supposed to allow discrimination, what was the point of this bill?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    The best part is: it'll all be moot soon in Ind. as the governor says the the legislators will amend the law to state unequivocally "no one can be refused service."

    So it's actually going to strengthen the laws against discriminating against g&l - the exact opposite of what the bigoted lobbyists pushing for the bill wanted.
    i hope that is not the case. No one would include people who can't pay, are too drunk, or have a gun in their hand...
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The CEO's and their lawyers are in the business of controversy-avoidance. They knew there would be an assault.
    No, they actually saw a threat to their businesses and their employees.

    Another person at a place I also post at did a very good job of explaining it:

    "Really, lets see, lets walk you through how a corporation could bolt.

    I am a design sheet metal company specializing in high end artistic sheet metal fabrication. I have a staff of 100 employees, 10 of my employees happen to be gay. I'm going to expand my business and I'm looking for States that have attributes: low taxes, good labor pool, cheap cost of living, decent living standards...

    oh, wait a minute. If I move my business to Indiana, my 10 gay employees are going to face State Sanctioned discrimination. Realtors can legally refuse to sell them a house, Apartment owners can refuse to lease to them, restaurants can legally refuse to serve them food. In fact, because I harbor these "gays" my business can legally be discriminated against. Suppliers in Indiana can legally choose to not sell to me.

    So why would I move my Business to Indiana? I guess I could move then cross my fingers and "hope" no one discriminates against my business or my employees because if they do I'd have no recourse under Indiana law."

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    We know who helped write the bill -- and why.


    And the pussy Pence signed it in private (no press or public allowed) -- but these folks were there - cheering him on...

    Pence and his talibornagain zealots....what a wimp.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    That's what you think. And there's a big, big difference between intelligence and Godly wisdom, the latter of which is obviously lost on the pro-gay left.
    Of that there is no doubt. Does your religion allow you to watch "The Big Bang Theory"?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    i hope that is not the case. No one would include people who can't pay, are too drunk, or have a gun in their hand...
    I do believe it would outline the protected classes. Not stupid **** like you just posted.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    No, they actually saw a threat to their businesses and their employees.

    Another person at a place I also post at did a very good job of explaining it:

    "Really, lets see, lets walk you through how a corporation could bolt.

    I am a design sheet metal company specializing in high end artistic sheet metal fabrication. I have a staff of 100 employees, 10 of my employees happen to be gay. I'm going to expand my business and I'm looking for States that have attributes: low taxes, good labor pool, cheap cost of living, decent living standards...

    oh, wait a minute. If I move my business to Indiana, my 10 gay employees are going to face State Sanctioned discrimination. Realtors can legally refuse to sell them a house, Apartment owners can refuse to lease to them, restaurants can legally refuse to serve them food. In fact, because I harbor these "gays" my business can legally be discriminated against. Suppliers in Indiana can legally choose to not sell to me.

    So why would I move my Business to Indiana? I guess I could move then cross my fingers and "hope" no one discriminates against my business or my employees because if they do I'd have no recourse under Indiana law."
    Sorry, but the discrimination you cite would not have passed muster before or after RFRA.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The CEO's and their lawyers are in the business of controversy-avoidance. They knew there would be an assault.
    Nope. They knew this what this is really about. The bigots and social conservatives have lost the gay marriage battle. So they're trying something else.

    While Pence on Tuesday called on Indiana lawmakers to pass legislation clarifying that it does not allow business owners to discriminate in providing services, it's unclear how the law would be changed.

    Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said any changes must not prevent florists, bakers or other businesses from being able to decline providing services to gay couples.
    At LEAST this guy is being truthful.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    No, they actually saw a threat to their businesses and their employees.

    Another person at a place I also post at did a very good job of explaining it:

    "Really, lets see, lets walk you through how a corporation could bolt.

    I am a design sheet metal company specializing in high end artistic sheet metal fabrication. I have a staff of 100 employees, 10 of my employees happen to be gay. I'm going to expand my business and I'm looking for States that have attributes: low taxes, good labor pool, cheap cost of living, decent living standards...

    oh, wait a minute. If I move my business to Indiana, my 10 gay employees are going to face State Sanctioned discrimination. Realtors can legally refuse to sell them a house, Apartment owners can refuse to lease to them, restaurants can legally refuse to serve them food. In fact, because I harbor these "gays" my business can legally be discriminated against. Suppliers in Indiana can legally choose to not sell to me.

    So why would I move my Business to Indiana? I guess I could move then cross my fingers and "hope" no one discriminates against my business or my employees because if they do I'd have no recourse under Indiana law."
    I swear you guys are making my argument for me. You're basically saying there is no point in anti-discrimination laws since the private sector rejects discrimination by a very wide margin. Lovely.

    I do however want liberals to say libertarians were right the entire time and our laws are pointless.

    Thank you.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Nope. They knew this what this is really about. The bigots and social conservatives have lost the gay marriage battle. So they're trying something else.



    At LEAST this guy is being truthful.

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    As I posted earlier, the liars won this time.
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