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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by freeRadical View Post
    Protected classes flies in the face of equality under the law.
    Tell that to the SCOTUS, they're the ones who wrote that into the Constitution.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Tell that to the SCOTUS, they're the ones who wrote that into the Constitution.
    SCOTUS can't write anything into the Constitution
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Many of Jesus's teachings in the New Testament are 180 degrees from what's in the Old Testament.
    I think not. Jesus was a Jew.

    "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by freeRadical View Post
    SCOTUS can't write anything into the Constitution
    Indeed they can, and have since they first invoked Madison v Marbury as precedent. They simply interpret the Constitution to mean whatever they wish. They've done it with pretty much the entire document. Copyright is a good example. The Constitution is explicit that a copyright will be held for 14 years before it becomes a part of the public domain. The SCOTUS rewrote that section to mean congress could name any amount of time at will.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post


    Thats as stupid as you thinking someone is equating homosexuality to bestiality. It is not EQUAL...except in that they are described as 'sin'

    Now...I take it by your insistence at diversion that you CANT find anywhere where Christ preached against prostitution and YET...still told the prostitute to go forth...and sin no more.

    Sin no more. Thats the part you hate. Thats the part you always ignore.
    You just set up an even more ridiculous position. If a business doesn't want to do business with a "sinner"....then they are probably in the wrong business. Or are we talking about a differentiation among "sins"? The bottom line is that it is completely "un-christian" to turn someone away because you think that they are "icky".

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    What they should have done from the jump. But they stupidly went ahead anyway while never anticipating a national backlash.
    Definitely a miscalculation on their part. No denying it. Timing, as they say, is everything.
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    Protected classes flies in the face of equality under the law.
    I agree, at the risk of getting shouted down by all those on the left.
    It's a global Jihad, stupid. Allowing that poison into the country is only going to increase the damage it inflicts on others.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Like Catholics and other Christians in name only....

    We're talking about major eternal damnation tenets.
    "in name only"....

    It's unclear to me how something barely mentioned in the Bible becomes a "major" eternal damnation tenet. This has frankly always baffled me. At its core, homosexuality (and heterosexuality) is about who someone loves. If you cannot love the 'correct' gender, you're damned to eternal hell unless you live a life alone, without intimacy? We all have different beliefs, but I can't accept that. If that means I'm damned as well, I guess that's the price I'll have to pay. It is the least of my concerns about judgment day.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    "in name only"....

    It's unclear to me how something barely mentioned in the Bible becomes a "major" eternal damnation tenet. This has frankly always baffled me. At its core, homosexuality (and heterosexuality) is about who someone loves. If you cannot love the 'correct' gender, you're damned to eternal hell unless you live a life alone, without intimacy? We all have different beliefs, but I can't accept that. If that means I'm damned as well, I guess that's the price I'll have to pay. It is the least of my concerns about judgment day.
    Barely mentioned?

    https://carm.org/bible-homosexuality

    Fortunately if you chose to quit supporting it [or practicing it if that were the case] you would be forgiven and wouldn't have to worry about that facet at all.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You just set up an even more ridiculous position. If a business doesn't want to do business with a "sinner"....then they are probably in the wrong business. Or are we talking about a differentiation among "sins"? The bottom line is that it is completely "un-christian" to turn someone away because you think that they are "icky".
    However as Christ demonstrated it is COMPLETELY appropriate to expect that the sinner go forth and sin no more. You cant find ANYWHERE were Christ said, hey...man...its cool...change that money in the temple. Or hey...you know what..go forth...and what is your Saturday special for hummers? No...he said...go forth...and sin no more.

    Sin no more.

    If you are going to KEEP bringing Christ into this argument as your standard bearer you are goign to have to deal with the TOTALITY of his comment...not just the parts you like.

    I dont differentiate between 'sins'. I dont define sins. Its not my place. Point of fact...I dont think the rules given to us were given as punishment or rule AGAINST sin. Your lifestyle choice is not a sin against me and to be direct...I think the cake baker is silly for turning the business away. That being said...I respect his or her right to do so, legally, and without government intervention. If you and the rest of the guys want to gather up a boycott and shriek and protest...be my guess. Odds are...all you will do is create an environment where that business gets a GREATER outpouring of support and love because frankly...people are tired of your bull****.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/01/us...=top-news&_r=0

    He acknowledged that the law, called the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, had become a threat to the state’s reputation and economy, with companies and organizations signaling that they would avoid Indiana in response to it. Mr. Pence said he had been on the phone with business leaders from around the country, adding, “We want to make it clear that Indiana’s open for business.”

    Like the Republican legislative leaders who said on Monday that they intended to clarify the law, the governor said he could not say what form that clarification might take. “The language is still being worked out,” he said.
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