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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    About a dozen CEO's have come out and blasted this law, yet conservatives who say the private sector is always right and the government is always wrong are now saying Indiana is right and the CEO's are wrong.

    Hate is a strong motivator.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Must be cherry picking season in your neck of the woods.
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    In Indiana gays have no legal protections from discrimination as they do in other States. Rather Cro magnoesue IMHO.

    Answering five questions about Indianaís new discrimination law - The Washington Post
    Based on this:
    Maybe. Indiana law on discrimination creates certain protected classes. You canít discriminate against someone because of their race, their religion, their gender, and so on. But sexual orientation isnít on that list, so itís already legal to discriminate against gay people in much of the state. Some cities and counties in the state have passed their own local anti-discrimination laws, and itís really these that are where the question comes in. Whether this law overrules them comes down to how courts would interpret the legislationís language.
    The way forward is clear, pass legislation that makes LGBT a protected class in Indiana. Not torpedo someone's legitimate legislation on the bases of it doing something that it doesn't.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    The way forward is clear, pass legislation that makes LGBT a protected class in Indiana.
    What they should have done from the jump. But they stupidly went ahead anyway while never anticipating a national backlash.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
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    The way forward is clear, pass legislation that makes LGBT a protected class in Indiana. Not torpedo someone's legitimate legislation on the bases of it doing something that it doesn't.
    Protected classes flies in the face of equality under the law.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Like Catholics and other Christians in name only....

    We're talking about major eternal damnation tenets.
    I am not a christian in name. I practice my beliefs and yes i screw up. I also know I will be forgiven.
    Preaching about the poor and forgiveness are/ were at the top of the teaching oh Jesus.
    So i will be judged on my sins in the end.
    And to tell the truth, I ain't worried.
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Based on this:


    The way forward is clear, pass legislation that makes LGBT a protected class in Indiana. Not torpedo someone's legitimate legislation on the bases of it doing something that it doesn't.
    Then the law was flawed from the beginning.
    Do you think this was not discussed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by hosh.24 View Post
    This is obviously a very controversial topic. And there are obviously many varying opinions. But, based on the fact that this bill will give business owners the right to deny service to pretty much anyone they choose under the basis of "religious freedom" they could deny service to African-Americans, Americans, Heterosexuals, males, and females, etc. Now I think we can all agree that people who fall under the above mentioned ethnicities, sexual orientations, and genders would have a hissy fit if they were denied access/service. Be it what you are, would you not be a tad bit angry if your favorite restaurant decided they would no longer serve you because of what/who you are?
    I'd rather not be accommodated than be served a turd sandwich that they called spam. Because as unlikely as wide-spread discrimination will happen, I suspect getting crappy service and poor product will.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by hosh.24 View Post
    But its okay for homosexuals to be denied the same service, correct?
    That is something for each state to decide, but I don't know of any state that has not always imposed the common law requirements I mentioned. They only date from about 1600.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    About a dozen CEO's have come out and blasted this law, yet conservatives who say the private sector is always right and the government is always wrong are now saying Indiana is right and the CEO's are wrong.

    Hate is a strong motivator.
    So businesses are coming out against discrimination? Gosh, were libertarians says for years now that discrimination is not accepted in the private sector? They were you say? Wow, who would have thought that liberals were wrong.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Why are you trying to equate homosexuality with prostitution. A close analogy would be adultry with prostitution. Funny thing is...most of the bigots have no problem serving adulterers.

    Along the same lines....most of these businesses have no problem serving any plethora of "sinners". If you have an issue with people who commit "sins" then going into business is probably a bad idea. Oh wait....I get it....they only don't want to serve "those" "sinners".


    Thats as stupid as you thinking someone is equating homosexuality to bestiality. It is not EQUAL...except in that they are described as 'sin'

    Now...I take it by your insistence at diversion that you CANT find anywhere where Christ preached against prostitution and YET...still told the prostitute to go forth...and sin no more.

    Sin no more. Thats the part you hate. Thats the part you always ignore.

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