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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We dont actually KNOW there was a Jesus. What we do know is that if there was in fact a Jesus, while he promoted love and compassion and forgiveness, he never accepted nor did he tolerate sin and sinful behavior.

    See...thats the problem when people that arent religious want to trot out WWJD to try to incriminate 'Christians'. They only want to use bits and pieces...the parts that are convenient to their version.
    Actually....the bigger problem is with those who claim to be "religious" but are really more political. There are many who proclaim the name "Christian" yet know almost nothing about the teachings of the man that they profess to worship. Where exactly did Jesus ever talk about homosexuality being a "sin"? In the same places he referred to as eating shellfish a sin?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    I love when right-wingers always try to play the "liberals are stupid" card. Statistics show a clear correlation between the amount of education and the degree of political bent. The higher a person is educated, the more liberal they generally are. Most right-wingers always try to blame the results on "liberal colleges"...but the reality remains. By and large the greater the education the greater the liberal bent. Sorry.
    That correlates to indoctrination, not intelligence

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    I am a CHRISTian, so for me personally I've always believed the teachings of Christ were more important then the Bible, especially the Old Testament of the Bible. Jesus never spoke out against homosexuality, so if it didn't bother him it doesn't both me.

    Besides since the beginning of man 5% or so of the population has been homosexual. Always has been, and always will be. Wishing it away or trying to legislate it away is a waste of time.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually....the bigger problem is with those who claim to be "religious" but are really more political. There are many who proclaim the name "Christian" yet know almost nothing about the teachings of the man that they profess to worship. Where exactly did Jesus ever talk about homosexuality being a "sin"? In the same places he referred to as eating shellfish a sin?
    Admittedly not a scriptorian and one that has chapter and verse memorized, but were there a lot of verses where Jesus taught against the sin of prostitution? And yet...
    Go forth...and sin no more.
    What of the apostles? Did they teach on about sin? Was there mention of the sin of homosexuality?

    Again...non religious people like to trot out religion...when it suits them.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    I am a CHRISTian, so for me personally I've always believed the teachings of Christ were more important then the Bible, especially the Old Testament of the Bible. Jesus never spoke out against homosexuality, so if it didn't bother him it doesn't both me.

    Besides since the beginning of man 5% or so of the population has been homosexual. Always has been, and always will be. Wishing it away or trying to legislate it away is a waste of time.
    I am a Christian and I understand that the whole Bible is the teachings of Christ

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Neighboring Illinois has a RFRA law. But it also has a statewide law that prohibits discrimination based on gender-identity and sexual-orientation.

    Texas and Missouri have RFRA laws. But they have sections in their RFRA laws that prohibit discrimination based on gender-identity and sexual-orientation.

    Indiana has no such statewide/RFRA protections. Indiana legislators rejected such protections when deliberating the Indiana RFRA law.

    One has to ask ... why?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm waiting for Starbucks to announce it's closing all of its stores in Indiana. They should be able to do that this afternoon. It's so easy!

    The way this law has been twisted by the easily led who read Think Progress and believe they have any clue about the law is a sight to behold. Again, it would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. I think everyone should get married - yes, gay people too - and I really don't care what people's preferences of a lover are, so I disagree with the religious right who think being gay is a sin. But if they believe it, that's their choice.

    The ridiculous "what ifs" that came out in this thread (and others - there's another one where someone decided that because of this law, if you're black, you won't be able to get food on your family vacation in Indiana - not kidding) are what's wrong here. Just like the stupid what ifs from the Hobby Lobby decision. The people who put these absurd things out there are getting it from Think Progress and other hard left sites. That's why hyper partisan sites are so dangerous.

    Yeah, they'll boycott the Final Four. Of course! But guess what? It will be "Um, we'll boycott it next year! Yeah!".

    State travel to Indiana. That's my favorite. I'm watching Dannel Malloy getting owned by Joe Scarborough right now. I wish Joe would ask him just how much state travel to Indiana the CT lawmakers did. Oh, he says most fraternities are based in Indiana, and they should make a statement by just getting up and moving out of Indiana. What is with these idiot leftists who have no idea what it takes to move a business to another state?

    Yeah Rahm Emanuel tried to get some face time. He said once he heard, he was trying to let businesses in Indiana know how beneficial it would be for them to move to Chicago and Illinois. He sent a letter to like 12-15 of them.

    I am sure they will want to pay all the high taxes we have over here and see how that would be so much more beneficial for them. Including their cost of living.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    The Bible is a sausage-fest. That's kinda geigh.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Neighboring Illinois has a RFRA law. But it also has a statewide law that prohibits discrimination based on gender-identity and sexual-orientation.

    Texas and Missouri have RFRA laws. But they have sections in their RFRA laws that prohibit discrimination based on gender-identity and sexual-orientation.

    Indiana has no such statewide/RFRA protections. Indiana legislators rejected such protections when deliberating the Indiana RFRA law.

    One has to ask ... why?
    Why doesn't the federal government have such a law

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Neighboring Illinois has a RFRA law. But it also has a statewide law that prohibits discrimination based on gender-identity and sexual-orientation.

    Texas and Missouri have RFRA laws. But they have sections in their RFRA laws that prohibit discrimination based on gender-identity and sexual-orientation.

    Indiana has no such statewide/RFRA protections. Indiana legislators rejected such protections when deliberating the Indiana RFRA law.

    One has to ask ... why?

    Because there is a Constitution and the Civil Rights act. You didn't think because they had nothing specific that they still wouldn't follow the law, did you?

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