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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    All of the pious hypocrite bigots should be asking themselves one question: WWJD?
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    WWJD? If you don't know the answer....perhaps you need to read about the man.
    This. A thousand times, this.

    I think anyone who lives in America, where the dominant religion is Christianity, need to know what's in the Bible. Really, people, go read it sometime. Some of you might have your minds blown by what's actually in there.

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    I get it! At the Sermon on the Mount Jesus made certain that porkers and fatasses didn't get any bread and made damned sure they didn't go back for seconds. That would have been enabling them to commit one of the 7 Deadly Sins, no? Why doesn't anyone ever mention that?

    I'm confused. According to you Christians in Indiana need a religious freedom law for the purpose of only practicing the parts of their religion they like. Christians in Indiana are not denying greedy people the right to purchase more crap they don't need, right? How about McMansions? Do Christian real estate agents refuse to sell people houses that people really don't need? You are telling me Indiana Christians support selling boats and vacation homes and diamond jewelry to people. Doesn't that directly contribute to the practice of envy? They don't have problems doing business and/or associating with prideful people either, huh? When fat people come rolling into a Christian owned restaurant in Indiana their business will not be refused...unless they are gay fat people.

    What do you want to bet that almost all the churches that support Indiana's religious freedom law so that they can deny doing business with gay people in the Lord's name have vending machines full of sugary drinks and sugar laden snacks? Promoting and enabling gluttony for Jesus? That's OK. Right?

    So we really aren't talking about the protection of a religion are we? We aren't even talking about most Christians. We are talking about a law that allows a small number of people practice pure hatred in the name of Christianity. I'd imagine most good Christians in Indiana feel raped.
    See, now the cool kids are showing up in this thread. The ones who have their heads screwed on straight.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not a non-response at all. Your dodge is noted. You post was simply playing the "Religious martyr" card. WWJD? Do you think that he would turn away the gay person or turn him away and then claim he was a martyr due to the backlash? If you don't know the answer, read about the man.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    well like i already said what shows more humility than accepting facts, supporting equal rights for others whether i agree with them or not and not pushing what i personally might find important on others.
    I was specifically referring to your posts and their tone in response to other members here.
    I wasn't detecting any humility (I may be wrong), but I thought I was detecting boastfulness (and I may be wrong about that too).
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Of course you don't. You don't understand the religions you reject out of hand. Simply put so even a humanist might understand it, God also gave us anger and we are counseled against it. The struggle with our temptations makes us stronger. Take a look at how Buddhism views desire.
    You assume I adhere to your supposed god out of thousands, no thanks.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    You assume I adhere to your supposed god out of thousands, no thanks.
    Try reading for comprehension, I presume the opposite and have made that clear. Heck, you've made that clear.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I was specifically referring to your posts and their tone in response to other members here.
    I wasn't detecting any humility (I may be wrong), but I thought I was detecting boastfulness (and I may be wrong about that too).
    hmmm interesting, well you are welcome to your opinion that accepting and understanding facts is boastful but id say that subjective opinion doesnt seem to fit the definition

    boastful
    1: a statement in which you express too much pride in yourself or in something you have, have done, or are connected to in some way
    2: a reason to be proud : something impressive that someone or something has or has done

    reading 1, doenst work because theres nothing "i" have done than posted facts . . .
    reading 2, again the same thing, knowing facts isnt impressive, its common

    but for the record i see no problem with being boastful, not does it impact my religion.
    I am proud to be a reality based and fact based poster

    and the best part of that is none of that changes the fact of my original post of the facts presented here

    is there some point you had? is your subjective opinion of such, which you are more than welcome to have relevant in any way to the topic or does it impact it in anyway?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    He would say, "Go, and sin no more"
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    If they wanted something to facilitate sin, I believe He would indeed turn them away. If they came in repentance, He would accept them
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    Romans 1: 26-27
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    Yes. All the words of the Bible are the words of Jesus
    Oh you want to include Biblical arguments?!

    Show me the exact chapter and verse where Jesus said that gay sex is a sin. Not Saint Paul. Not the Old Testament. Jesus.

    While you're looking for it, why don't you start by reading Matthew 7:1-5. And you want to pull an enormous act of irony and use that to judge me, then congratulations, you are the kind of person who needed to hear it.

    Next, flip over to Exodus 20:16. Read that verse. Again, and again and again and again. Notice that intent does not show up. Nor does failure to do your homework. Or to remove your own prejudices and biases. You give false testimony against your neighbor, you break the Ninth Commandment. Period.

    Then turn to Revelation 21:8 and read what fate awaits those of you who continue to lie.

    If all of the above verses are true and right, then you have far, far bigger problems to deal with than just some unwanted backlash to a law of men.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    If you are straight and cisgender, then you have the privilege of making comments such as these. You are completely dismissing the legitimate concerns of LGBTs, who have to deal with homophobia and genderphobia every day of their lives. As such, your holier-than-thou attitude does not deserve to be listened to. It only deserves to be stood up.
    Your attitude is classic of those who are either homosexual, transsexual, or of ANY group who think that they are the only ones who have the right to speak on their issues and the only ones who understand it. The holier-than-thou attitude is yours and is pretty worthless. When you learn to start listening, perhaps then you'll learn something. As for me, I've done more for the gay and trans community than you could do in two lifetimes.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers - CNN.com



    Wow. WTF Indiana????
    You trying to out-religious the bible-belt states?
    Is Indiana becoming Mississippi2.0 or something?

    This is going to be interesting to watch.
    I look at it this way,
    it's just one more of those republican anal retentive things,
    you know, the one way asshole, their way.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    This law protects gays as well, such as this one:

    Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex marriage
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1027072

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