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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Paying someone that was forced to serve you does not change the fact that they were forced to serve you.



    Which does not entirely depart them from government punishment. Furthermore, they must take certain actions that they might not desire to take if they were to go that route.
    I'm not gonna force anybody to serve me. I'm just going to sue them if they don't.

    More Henrinbabble...isn't gonna get ya where you want to go.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I'm not gonna force anybody to serve me. I'm just going to sue them if they don't.

    More Henrinbabble...isn't gonna get ya where you want to go.
    Shall we call that tolerance?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I'm not gonna force anybody to serve me. I'm just going to sue them if they don't.

    More Henrinbabble...isn't gonna get ya where you want to go.
    So basically if they fail to serve you and you take them to court for it the state will punish them for the failure to serve you. That's not government force how?

    What was the punishment based on again? Oh right, the failure to provide someone else their service, labor, property, and association. How nice, so it is a violation of the thirteenth amendment like I said it was.

    You know what else it is a violation of? Oh lets see, the first and fourteenth amendment. What amendment did the courts try to use again? Oh right, the fourteenth amendment. Funny how it actually violates that amendment.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Sorry, no they aren't. Well, unless you can prove Jesus was around during the old testament. And no, the Trinity wasn't applicable at that time...if you believe in such.
    Jesus said "before Abraham was I AM". To know what that meant to His contemporaries, look at the response from His hearers. Note the context at the end of verse 53. Then the response verse 59; the response of stoning is punishment for blasphemy, claiming to pre exist Abraham and using a reference to the omnipresent (I AM).

    John 8: 53 Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died? And the prophets died! Who do you make yourself out to be?” 54 Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’[a] 55 But you have not known him. I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and I keep his word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.” 57 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?”[b] 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is a difference between something being ok and that something being legal. I hope I don't need to explain to you the difference.
    it should be illegal. sorry. Jim Crow ****ed it up for the whole class, and if you ask me, i say good riddance to it.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Your question is bizarre. That's why I asked your point. My position on original sin is that it was original sin. And no, I wasn't wrong before
    Yes you were.
    Do we still have original sin?
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    so you are not OK with Rev Wright and the BLT teachings that Obama adhered to ?
    i don't give a **** about some talking point that you heard on Hannity. i turned him off years ago.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Jesus said "before Abraham was I AM". To know what that meant to His contemporaries, look at the response from His hearers. Note the context at the end of verse 53. Then the response verse 59; the response of stoning is punishment for blasphemy, claiming to pre exist Abraham and using a reference to the omnipresent (I AM).

    John 8: 53 Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died? And the prophets died! Who do you make yourself out to be?” 54 Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’[a] 55 But you have not known him. I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and I keep his word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.” 57 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?”[b] 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
    Oh brother... What nonsense.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it should be illegal. sorry. Jim Crow ****ed it up for the whole class, and if you ask me, i say good riddance to it.
    Jim Crow was the law forcing businesses to discriminate.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Oh brother... What nonsense.
    Not non sense. Its standard Christian doctrine. I didn't make it up, it's taught in Theology in every Christian seminary.
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