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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Pence has been the honest one. It's his critics who have been disingenuous.
    Yeah, OK. Does the bill allow for X? Uh, well, you know, like, whether it does X or not isn't the point, this is about FREEDOM!

    Seems he's created a firestorm and his weasel performance on Sunday didn't help him any. I'm enjoying it anyway, which is good for me.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    You are indeed lucky...kind of. Texas State Board of Education has influence on the text book contents your kids have to read and learn.

    I promise you...that's no bueno
    Oh don't get me wrong. Our State Board of Ed wields much power over the content of our kids' schooling. A useless group of morons if I ever saw one. It's the adults who they don't try to over control here. Thank goodness.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    Agreed.
    You see, conservatives and "Dutch style" social democrats can agree on issues. I am not an American social democrat because I would think that would be closer to the position of the Socialist Party of the Netherlands (a party which I detest, they finance the poor by taking too much from the rich and the middle class, are too constricting when it comes to economics, I do not like nationalized industries, etc. etc. etc.).

    I am a social liberal and a moderate on most other issues, sometimes even agreeing with conservatives.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    You are indeed lucky...kind of. Texas State Board of Education has influence on the text book contents your kids have to read and learn.

    I promise you...that's no bueno
    All states have influence on what children learn. It's an intended consequence of government being involved in education.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Those who sponsored the law have, I believe, been caught off guard by the vicious dishonesty of their critics.
    Their "dishonest" critics believed the proponents of the bill. And they noticed that given the chance to clarify the law and make clear that it wouldn't allow for discrimination (as you claim) the legislature declined. Utah of all places did a fine job of coming to a compromise. Indiana gave everyone the finger. It's blowing up on them.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Oh don't get me wrong. Our State Board of Ed wields much power over the content of our kids' schooling. A useless group of morons if I ever saw one. It's the adults who they don't try to over control here. Thank goodness.
    Seriously, check it out. Texas has more influence over contents of texts books across the nation than many state's own boards. It's in the headlines all the time.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The people claimed it violated their religious beliefs to serve same sex couples at a wedding, just as there are those in the 70s who claimed it violated their religious beliefs to serve interracial couples. People use religious beliefs as an excuse for not accepting responsibility for their own, personal beliefs.
    Oh. Well, the only people I know who oppose gay marriage and gay coupling are my deeply religious friends/acquaintances . They are most certainly opposed for religious reasons. My mother in law is a holy rolling Catholic, and I've seen some of her literature that says homosexuality is a sin.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    All states have influence on what children learn. It's an intended consequence of government being involved in education.
    Sure beats creationists having influence.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Seriously, check it out. Texas has more influence over contents of texts books across the nation than many state's own boards. It's in the headlines all the time.
    I've seen the headlines from TX. That's why government doesn't belong in education.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Pence has been caught off guard by the vicious dishonesty of the law's critics.
    LOL. "Vicious" dishonesty....

    Well, try to appease bigots and this is the price. Can't say he wasn't warned, because he was and did it anyway. Now the legislature is hearing from businesses who warned them NOT to do it and this time it looks like they may listen.

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