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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Didn't know the bible had any verses regarding Jesus' views on gays. But as far as all of the others you've mention. Didn't God say Jesus was the supreme sacrifice for everybody's sins...that they would be forgiven for their transgressions?
    Jesus' sacrifice does not mean you can keep on sinning. He did not tell Mary that once he dies she can go back to being a prostitute.

    So now, I see so many so-called Christians who have decided to stand in for God - and have decided to judge now...and relieve God from having too much to do on Judgment Day. Right?
    Mentioning someone's sin is not judging them.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Know from the bottom of your heart...I'm not gonna worry about it. But when you realize that you too are subject to complying with laws of the land...feel free to give me a shout.
    And there is that circular reasoning I was waiting for. It fun when a statist does the same kind of circular nonsense a religious person does.

    Religious person: God exists

    Atheists: What is your proof?

    Religious person: The bible says so.

    Statist: Follow the law!

    Me: Why?

    Statist: Because it's the law!


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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The problem is that politics are too big of an influence on the legal profession.
    I'm all for an Internet voting system that makes our laws. My belief that most people are generally good would rule the day.

    This would take organized politics, lobbyist, and monetary persuasion out of the mix.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Jesus' sacrifice does not mean you can keep on sinning.



    Mentioning someone's sin is not judging them.
    Have you stopped sinning, Brother James?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And there is that circular reasoning I was waiting for.
    Exactly. Straight out of Henrin's Book of Idiocracy. The guidelines on how to create illogical premises then beg for a logical conclusions.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Yes, because people who experience righteous anger when losing their human rights are just as bad as people who experience defensive anger when called out for oppressing others' rights. Epic fail, CC.
    This is about a lot that is securing human rights

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Some people in Indiana don't much like this new law

    Ballard to legislature: Add sexual orientation as protected class

    Indianapolis Mayor Greg Ballard is calling on the Indiana General Assembly to add sexual orientation as a protected class.

    Ballard said Monday he is issuing an executive order that anyone who receives money from the city must abide by its human rights ordinance.

    The mayor called a news conference Monday afternoon to discuss the city's response to the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, passed by the legislature and signed by Gov. Mike Pence last week.

    Business groups have said the law, which is to take effect July 1, will have grave economic consequences for Indy as well as the state at large.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Exactly. Straight out of Henrin's Book of Idiocracy. The guidelines on how to create illogical premises then beg for a logical conclusions.
    So it's illogical to ask you what right anti-discrimination laws protect?

    Ok?

    Oh right, they protect civil rights, which of course only makes me ask what right does civil rights protect.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I guess we worry about different things, RM. I wouldn't lose my marbles because someone doesn't want to bake me a cake so I have to go to the guy down the road.

    I'm not religious at all, but it doesn't bother me when others are. I just don't want to be forced to go to church or wear ashes on my head one day in February or read the Bible or pray with beads. To each his own.
    Well, actually TB, I'm not really worried about any of it. I'm from Texas...the land of radical government legislation. And their constant attempts to make everybody want to praise Jesus. In Texas, the legislators see persecution of those who won't fall to their knees a waste of time. They prefer execution.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So it's illogical to ask you what right anti-discrimination laws protect?

    Ok?

    Oh right, they protect civil rights, which of course only makes me ask what right does civil rights protect.
    The freedom to sue a Muslim baker who refuses fix me a cake made out of bacon and decorated with two guys kissing..
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