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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes, I was interested, and I didn't think it was bad to ask you what it was instead of spending half an hour Googling to find it.

    So there were 3 people who oppose gay marriage or gay people at the signing. And this is somehow surprising? Who normally attends bill signings - opponents of the bill?
    Wait..... we have all been told this has nothing to do with gays. Were we lied to?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomEagle View Post
    Wait..... we have all been told this has nothing to do with gays. Were we lied to?
    I have no idea. You have to ask whoever you talked to. I don't know who told you what in your 2 posts here.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Would that be a bad thing? It limits your customer pool slightly, but that would be your issue that you assume, yes?
    No, not at all...but I bet I maintain a lot more customers than the a lot of business in Indiana who want to openly run a bigoted business. How many their look like Homer?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I wish it were that easy. To understand the law in a particular state, you can't simply read the statute, you need to be familiar with all of the relevant case law. This is why you're not likely to find a quick and easy summary of how the law works in every state, because to compile and maintain such a record requires a substantial amount of work.

    For example, in California you can even walk into a Jewish establishment in Nazi regalia and they cannot (legally) refuse service. This would never be apparent from the statute, but the court decided that someone's Nazi political beliefs are analogous to religion and therefore they could not be denied service.
    I don't have any problem with that decision. There are obvious downsides for either result. As it is a small number of Jewish establishments will be forced to serve Nazi's, but all Jews in California have strong protection against being discriminated against, including by idiots like those Nazi's.

    It would be impossible for this difficult issue for any public policy to come to the "right" answer in every case. Nothing works like that. So the relevant policy question is does protecting everyone from discrimination, including scum like the Nazis, serve a public purpose and to me the answer is obviously it does.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    My friend visited a clinic in Marion Indiana for nothing serious he says. After filling out a standard questionaire, in his words he was "strongly recommended another clinic" Do you really think that businesses are NOT going to be using this BS law to jettison those who are gay or those that they don't like the looks of. Especially right center smack dab in Central WASP Indiana. I've spent a great deal of time in Fairmount Indiana, I've seen what they deal with. I get stink eye from the locals for the way that I look. And this law is just what the locals will use to make their feelings "extra known" to them.
    what was the reason given for suggesting he find another clinic

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    no problem

    as long as someone else can sell me what you can sell me

    no skin off of my nose.....

    but, your loss....my money is green
    That was my point in the first place.

    The Muslim baker...in Travis' example is an idiot or hates money...
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    yea.. Id like to know also.. good question...I cant wait for the response..
    I have yet to find someone capable of answering that question. The thing is that I don't think anyone can answer that question without leaning on the law and once that do that they have committed a fallacy.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    No, not at all...but I bet I maintain a lot more customers than the a lot of business in Indiana who want to openly run a bigoted business. How many their look like Homer?
    Probably a lot. It's the sad reality of this country that more men resemble Homer Simpson than resemble Sean Connery.

    I think business owners should have a right to do that, but they should also assume accountability for their action$ (these things hit them in their pocketbooks). And in this day and age, the buyer can likely find another vendor who doesn't care about his less than handsome appearance.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    In a perfect world..but in this one the Elites have installed safeguards to prevent public input. Cause they know what's good for us.
    The problem is that politics are too big of an influence on the legal profession.
    Wilders is a piece of gutter trash, a gutless populist who has no morality to speak of.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    That was my point in the first place.

    The Muslim baker...in Travis' example is an idiot or hates money...
    People have the right to be idiots. Then again, who the **** wants a bacon cake? I mean, ok, bacon is delicious, but on a cake? **** no! I'm not making that.

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