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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't agree that kicking black people out of restaurants for being black should be ok.
    I don't think it's "okay."

    I also don't think it should be illegal.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I get that. But one isn't mutually exclusive of the other.

    How do business owners decide to exclude a consumer based on a religious belief? What criteria or method will they use to discriminate? Your Muslin example won't be near as blatant when it comes to discriminating against all who they claim violates their religious beliefs.

    Consumers will learn to work around bigoted business owners.

    its mutually exclusive......

    so again.. why dont you go into a Muslim Cake maker and ask for a cake with bacon and a picture of Muhammad on it with men kissing..

    let us know how it goes... and if they deny you you better make a major issue out of it.. your rights had been taken by the Muslims that denied it..

    Right?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    I don't think it's "okay."

    I also don't think it should be illegal.
    i do.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't agree that kicking black people out of restaurants for being black should be ok.
    There is a difference between something being ok and that something being legal. I hope I don't need to explain to you the difference.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't agree that kicking black people out of restaurants for being black should be ok.
    so you are not OK with Rev Wright and the BLT teachings that Obama adhered to ?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    its mutually exclusive......

    so again.. why dont you go into a Muslim Cake maker and ask for a cake with bacon and a picture of Muhammad on it with men kissing..

    let us know how it goes... and if they deny you you better make a major issue out of it.. you rights had been taken by the Muslims that denied it..
    I prefer the money...over bigotry. But that's just me.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Anyone who says the RFRA bill isn't intended to discriminate against gay citizens ain't paying attention

    Here's a picture/comment from GLAAD

    Attachment 67182478

    For 'some' reason, the governor's office is refusing to release names of those who attended the bill signing
    Can't imagine why not????

    I thought this was funny, from your article:

    Those three, with their connections to a vast network of conservative churches, led a failed effort last year to ban same-sex marriage in Indiana’s constitution. The governor has tried to distance the religious freedom legislation from that issue.
    He's tried to distance the RFRA from that issue by inviting the major proponents of the SSM ban to the signing and placed them within arm reach of the Gov. "Promise - this has nothing to do with teh gays. What those guys standing RIGHT THERE behind me said about it? Ignore it..... "

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I prefer the money...over bigotry. But that's just me.
    stop deflecting..

    why dont you go and do that.. go to a Muslim neighborhood in Detroit and demand that bacon cake with Muhammad's picture on it with gay men kissing as figurines.. and then throw a fit when they dont make it.. YOU BEEN JOBBED!!!!!!

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Okay, so you can't produce something that says "in state x you have to serve anyone who walks into your establishment".
    Look at it this way. A judge might approach this with very same concern that you have - what sense does it make to protect people based on race, but not one of the million other classifications that might arise?

    In the case of Blonde vs. Get Out, Inc., the judge may ask the question, if we do not allow discrimination based on something as arbitrary as skin color, why should we allow discrimination based on something so arbitrary as hair color? If the defendents have not answered that question, if there is no legitimate business interest in denying service to blondes, the court may very well (and likely will) rule in favor of the plaintiffs.

    Now, you may disagree with this, but that doesn't stop it from happening.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    stop deflecting..

    why dont you go and do that.. go to a Muslim neighborhood in Detroit and demand that bacon cake with Muhammad on it with gay men kissing as figurines.. and then throw a fit when they dont make it.. YOU BEEN JOBBED!!!!!!
    Yes, I would be deprived from bigots. Not robbed. Well, as long as they don't take or keep my money.
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