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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't agree with special exemptions for religious claims either. That's my entire argument. Nobody should be getting special treatment or the right to comply or deny service - on either side.

    Either serve everyone, or do what you suggested here (which is a good suggestion, BTW).
    Says she doesn't think the religious shouldn't get special exemptions

    Supports a law that gives the religious special exemptions
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Lol, yes, it just means normal people that aren't delusional about their gender. It's a stupid term that serves no purpose.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Why doesn't the Christian church deny fellowship with those Christians that engage in despicable and sinful behaviors and engaging in heterosexual intercourse.
    You should direct that to someone that speaks for whatever Christian church you seem to have in mind.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Stop. Your cisgender privilege allows you to make these ignorant comments.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Uh, yeah... this isn't a thing.
    You can't know that. Being blind to your straight white cisgender male privilege IS straight white cisgender male privilege.

    Why don't you move to Miss-Sippy where this kind of attitude is tolerated?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    so, are you ok with kicking black people out of restaurants simply for being black if the owner decides on that policy?
    Define "okay with."

    Should that be legally permissable? Absolutely.

    I would also condemn such a policy.


    I compare the notion to free speech; I don't have to agree with what you say to agree you have a right to say it.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    To what end do you believe such laws serve the public at large when there is civil rights language in most states and federal law, which is to the contrary to zealot religious legislation? Think the S.C. will just look the other way?

    Are tattoos on gays similar to those put on Jews who were encamped during WWII the next logical move for states like Indiana?

    Or how about microchip implants for all gays. That way chip detection alarms can be installed in door ways of business who choose to impose their bigoted views on potential consumers who are gay...or may those who have green eyes, a different religion, skin color...etc. than that of the business owners.
    again.. this law protects ones freedom in the private sector and religious institutes to NOT BE FORCED to do something that is against theire religious morals

    should a Muslim cake maker be forced to make a cake with Muhammad's picture on it If I walk in and demand one? with bacon and men kissing on it as figurines? or should they be arrested for denying that?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You can't know that.
    Yeah, I can.

    Take this hateful stupidity back to the darkest depths of tumblr, where it belongs.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Yeah, I can.

    Take this hateful stupidity back to the darkest depths of tumblr, where it belongs.
    It's not so much hateful as it is stupid.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Okay, so you can't produce something that says "in state x you have to serve anyone who walks into your establishment".
    I wish it were that easy. To understand the law in a particular state, you can't simply read the statute, you need to be familiar with all of the relevant case law. This is why you're not likely to find a quick and easy summary of how the law works in every state, because to compile and maintain such a record requires a substantial amount of work.

    For example, in California you can even walk into a Jewish establishment in Nazi regalia and they cannot (legally) refuse service. This would never be apparent from the statute, but the court decided that someone's Nazi political beliefs are analogous to religion and therefore they could not be denied service.

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