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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Just as it is appropriate for one to choose a business with which one wishes, so should a business be able to choose its customers. While refusing to do business with gays is stupid business I stand on the side of the business to choose to conduct stupid business if it so wishes. While I think this is a stupid law it is less stupid than whatever law caused the government to decide with whom a business should conduct its business. If one stupid law counteracts another stupid law then I guess it is a zero sum.

    The constitution is designed to limit the power of government and to protect the people from the government. It has no business messing with business so long as a business isn't cheating or hurting anyone. Refusing service to someone whether they are gay, green or aren't wearing shoes and a shirt, is a matter of choice and freedom. Those folks can find businesses that are less stupid. People should have the right to make stupid decisions if that is what they want to do. It is not the role of government to protect people from their own decisions so long as the decisions aren't otherwise hurtful to others.

    That is what this Hoosier believes.
    Why should your business benefit from the roads, sewer system, electricity grid, garbage pickup, etc. that a gay citizen paid taxes to provide his/her community if you're going to use that infrastructure to deny him/her access to your business? Should a gay citizen be able to decide, using your logic, that no religious bigots get to use the municipalities infrastructure to operate a business?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    I don't think you know what the word equality means.
    of course "you" think that
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    From the posts I have read, he has a better grasp than many on this forum
    Then that doesn't speak very highly of many posters on this forum.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    From what I am reading Pence might throw his hat into the GOP presidential hopeful ring. So this is probably a way for him to get on the good side of the religious right. Which will help him in the GOP primaries, but completely kills any chance of him winning the nomination. So in other words he's just another clown in the GOP clown car.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Why should your business benefit from the roads, sewer system, electricity grid, garbage pickup, etc. that a gay citizen paid taxes to provide his/her community if you're going to use that infrastructure to deny him/her access to your business? Should a gay citizen be able to decide, using your logic, that no religious bigots get to use the municipalities infrastructure to operate a business?
    Well, what do you say to home owners that refuse to provide gay individuals entry into their home?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    If you run a business that caters to the public, then you ****ing cater to the public. If you want to discriminate, then open a private club, collect membership dues then you can exclude all the gays, blacks and midgets that you want.
    shouting at people in a profane way to do what you say is so convincing.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Then that doesn't speak very highly of many posters on this forum.
    This Bill is pure hatred. Wrapped up as freedom for religious beliefs.
    If someone buys into that, not my problem, they have the problem.
    And the madness grows

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/25/us...ay-people.html
    LOS ANGELES — Even in a state known for its far-reaching and sometimes outlandish voter initiatives, the one proposed by a Huntington Beach lawyer seems stunning: the “Sodomite Suppression Act,” mandating, among other things, that any person who has sexual relations with someone of the same gender be “put to death by bullets to the head.”

    It appears highly unlikely that the lawyer, Matthew G. McLaughlin, can collect the 365,880 signatures of registered voters — 5 percent of the total who voted for governor in the last election — needed to put the initiative on the ballot. Even if he does, it seems even more unlikely that it would ever pass in this state. And even if it did, opponents said, it would almost certainly be thrown out by a judge.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    This Bill is pure hatred. Wrapped up as freedom for religious beliefs.
    If someone buys into that, not my problem, they have the problem.
    And the madness grows

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/25/us...ay-people.html
    respecting individuals rights to maintain freedom to associate with who they wish to associate with is a good thing.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    This sounds like another state version of the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act, although I didn't see that specified in the article. It's not clear how far states can expand the protection of the Free Exercise Clause beyond what the Supreme Court has held it protects. I don't see why it is not enough just to omit sexual orientation from the list of grounds on which discrimination by public accommodations is prohibited by the state law.

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