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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Just don't understand why someone would be so opposed to hunting while making a living selling meat from slaughterhouses. But that's a subject for another thread.


    You're the one who claimed "you can deny service to anyone for any reason"


    State public accommodations laws - which is why I say things like "typically," "usually," and "most if not all" because I don't know the law in every state.

    A cleaning service is not "a place of public accommodation."
    I said you can deny service for any reason except if it's someone of the protected class. In fact, I said that repeatedly.

    Okay, so you can't produce something that says "in state x you have to serve anyone who walks into your establishment".
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Jesus often ate dinner with criminals. Jesus ate with prostitutes.
    Jesus also said sin no more.Jesus ate with those people to try to convert them.

    Mark 2:16-17
    16When the scribes of the Pharisees saw that He was eating with the sinners and tax collectors, they said to His disciples, "Why is He eating and drinking with tax collectors and sinners?" 17And hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    In this country, they are not beyond political and monetary influence. If they can't be recalled or.fired they are susceptible.
    No, the problem is there that bad judicial decisions cannot be reversed on appeal. That makes the power of a judge far too great IMHO. No judicial decision should be beyond reproach in the criminal justice system. In the Netherlands no legal decision of any seriousness is made by just 1 judge but by 3 judges. Afterwards both the prosecution and the defense can appeal that decision and if they still feel the decision has been made on unlawful grounds they can go to our version of the supreme court and have it overturned and kicked back to a lower court to redo the trial.

    I still do not think that judges should be beholden to anyone except the law and should not make decisions with elections on their mind because that just is very unhealthy from a legal point of view.
    Wilders is a piece of gutter trash, a gutless populist who has no morality to speak of.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Homosexuals just don't appreciate the opportunity this bill provides for them. They can create a religion of their own like the Church of the Great Holy Phallus or some such thing and then refuse to serve those despicable breeders that are an affront to their religion because they engage in despicable and sinful behaviors like attending traditional Christian churches and engaging in heterosexual intercourse.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Jesus also said sin no more.Jesus ate with those people to try to convert them.

    Mark 2:16-17
    16When the scribes of the Pharisees saw that He was eating with the sinners and tax collectors, they said to His disciples, "Why is He eating and drinking with tax collectors and sinners?" 17And hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
    Jesus did not avoid them. That is precisely the point. He associated with them. Indiana has legalized doing just the opposite. And in the name of Jesus and his love.










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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Jesus did not avoid them. That is precisely the point. He associated with them. Indiana has legalized doing just the opposite. And in the name of Jesus and his love.
    Are you of the opinion that the Federal Government and the other 30 states that have similar law or case law have also legalized discrimination in the name of religious freedom?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Jesus did not avoid them. That is precisely the point. He associated with them. Indiana has legalized doing just the opposite. And in the name of Jesus and his love.
    what part of respecting others religious views do the gays not get? I think its just radical side of the LBGTmovement again over stepping others freedoms..

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Are you of the opinion that the Federal Government and the other 30 states that have similar law or case law have also legalized discrimination in the name of religious freedom?
    Nope. I am not. Cite me some, please.










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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    cisgender
    Uh, yeah... this isn't a thing.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Nope. I am not. Cite me some, please.
    19 states that have ‘religious freedom’ laws like Indiana’s that no one is boycotting - The Washington Post
    The same law is on the books in 19 States, the Federal government(1993), and in-effect through case law in 11 other States. How is Indiana's legalizing discrimination, but these other 31 instances are not?

    Furthermore, can you show a case where RFRA was leveraged to win a discrimination case? Here are 10 cases, but they don't align with your viewpoint: 10 Americans Helped By Religious Freedom Bills Like Indiana's

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