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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not at all. A religion is not allowed to use its pulpit to lobby for candidates and legislation. The church funded the measure, pressured its members to make large donations and lied and hid the costs of their activities. Lying "in the name of God" is still lying.
    Then you must hate the Clintons and Obama

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    You don't like the questions I asked because they point up that when taken far enough, laws that force people to interact with homosexuals in rental housing and public accommodations will be unconstitutional--and therefore unenforceable. The two grounds my questions were getting at were: they violate the First Amendment freedom of association; and they violate the implied constitutional right to personal privacy.

    If anyone wants to claim people should rent to homosexuals just because it's the right thing to do, fine with me. I don't have any moral convictions about the matter one way or the other. When it comes to matters that are regulated by laws, I don't think it accomplishes much to offer personal opinions about what's right or wrong. When all is said and done, all that counts is who can enforce what against whom.
    Actually, I have no opinion on whether I liked or didn't like your questions. I would have preferred them to be on topic and not misrepresent the position of the poster of whom you quoted.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Actually, I have no opinion on whether I liked or didn't like your questions. I would have preferred them to be on topic and not misrepresent the position of the poster of whom you quoted.
    again.. Match was on topic.. its you who just cant "get it" or "understand"..

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    actually not.. my view is pretty much main stream blue collar America...

    we dont trust the liberal agenda.. nobody should
    No, your position is anti-liberal and really holds no actual agenda. It disagrees. That's about it. No one should trust an agenda that is nothing more than contrarian, which is all that folks like you profess.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, your position is anti-liberal and really holds no actual agenda. It disagrees. That's about it. No one should trust an agenda that is nothing more than contrarian, which is all that folks like you profess.
    "it disagrees",,, what is it?

    again religious freedom to liberals is not what they support

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    again.. Match was on topic.. its you who just cant "get it" or "understand"..
    No, match was not on topic. Of course, you don't care because you aren't either. You just want to spew your "I hate liberals" comments whether it has anything to do with what we are discussing or not. Now, I'll ask AGAIN... do you have anything reasonable to say, or do you just want to discuss your anti-liberal agenda?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    "it disagrees",,, what is it?

    again religious freedom to liberals is not what they support
    This is classic Travis dishonesty and exemplifies precisely what I have been saying about your anti-liberal agenda who's sole purpose is just to disagree. Why don't you tell me what MY position on religious freedom is. Let's see you prove me right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    So if two dudes walk into My convenient store in Indiana, and I'm an evangelical type, Am I now within the law to assume that they're gay and throw them out. How do I know that they're gay? Should men not visit places of business in pairs now? or Women? What if I toss out two guys that I assume are gay and they're not, can they sue me? Does my religion protect me from making assumptions about people?
    Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can sit in a boat, drinking beer all day while you fool around with his Woman.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, match was not on topic. Of course, you don't care because you aren't either. You just want to spew your "I hate liberals" comments whether it has anything to do with what we are discussing or not. Now, I'll ask AGAIN... do you have anything reasonable to say, or do you just want to discuss your anti-liberal agenda?
    your digging a deeper hole for your all emotion far left , no substance liberal agenda ridden posts... very typical of you


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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    Then you must hate the Clintons and Obama
    No. I also don't hate Mormons. Mormons by and large are good people who do many good things. What they did in prop 8 however was wrong and illegal.

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