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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    My people were oppressed with it but, the homosexuals can't say it's happened to them. None of it.

    Maybe you should look up the word 'vile'.
    "the homosexuals" can't say oppressions have happened to them?
    you really ??? need examples to prove this wrong?


    as to looking words up, I can and often do. I don't however need to look up vile, nor do I need to look up instances of usage of "the ___{insert group here}___" to determine intent.
    Finally, it's funny you dodged the callout I gave you over your* use of the word "privilege" out of context. WHY is that?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    We're not working from a position of hate or denial, only protecting and maintaining an age old belief system we hold dear.

    IMO, the homosexuals hate that belief system and wish it destroyed.
    That's an unfair stereotype. There are people of all types in any large group, but a fairer (IMO) characterization is they would like that old age belief system to tolerate them like it does adulterers, robbers, those who have premarital sex, the greedy, etc. The fact is some who adhere in that belief system want them criminalized and jailed for consensual acts, in some countries killed, in most places throughout most of history marginalized and removed from mainstream society. To the extent they want anything "destroyed" it's those beliefs, not your family or your church.

    The part I've also never understood is also that those gays who want to get married are in fact embracing much of the Christian view of family - stability, monogamy, often children. They just are attracted to different people, but want many of the same things any family wants which is legal protections, spousal benefits, ability to act on behalf of their children and all the rest that comes with marriage. And it can be granted them without taking ANYTHING from my marriage or yours.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    "the homosexuals" can't say oppressions have happened to them?
    you really ??? need examples to prove this wrong?


    as to looking words up, I can and often do. I don't however need to look up vile, nor do I need to look up instances of usage of "the ___{insert group here}___" to determine intent.
    Finally, it's funny you dodged the callout I gave you over your* use of the word "privilege" out of context. WHY is that?
    I didn't want to call it protections. IMO the only protection Homosexuals need is from themselves.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    We're not working from a position of hate or denial, only protecting and maintaining an age old belief system we hold dear.

    IMO, the homosexuals hate that belief system and wish it destroyed.

    do you trim your hair or beard?
    eat shellfish or pork?
    have a flat nose?
    wear clothes made of more than one fabric?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I didn't want to call it protections. IMO the only protection Homosexuals need is from themselves.
    way to not answer the questions
    and show your bigotry, to boot


    I know you won't answer this, but what would God think of you CAPITALIZING 'Homosexuals'?
    {I know what astute forum posters will note about you shifting away from 'the homos'}

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    That's an unfair stereotype. There are people of all types in any large group, but a fairer (IMO) characterization is they would like that old age belief system to tolerate them like it does adulterers, robbers, those who have premarital sex, the greedy, etc. The fact is some who adhere in that belief system want them criminalized and jailed for consensual acts, in some countries killed, in most places throughout most of history marginalized and removed from mainstream society. To the extent they want anything "destroyed" it's those beliefs, not your family or your church.

    The part I've also never understood is also that those gays who want to get married are in fact embracing much of the Christian view of family - stability, monogamy, often children. They just are attracted to different people, but want many of the same things any family wants which is legal protections, spousal benefits, ability to act on behalf of their children and all the rest that comes with marriage. And it can be granted them without taking ANYTHING from my marriage or yours.
    Christians don't 'tolerate' sin. They forgive the sinner. As a matter of fact they wage war on sin.

    IMO, 'some' Christians [and those of other faiths] have become way too submissive in regards to 'tolerating' sin.

    Jesus was crucified to take away our sins but, he said to go forth and sin NO MORE. Apparently some forgot that part.
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    It does. People see you coming.

    Needless to say, Indiana's RFRA is getting a bad rap. I'm waiting for the protests in the 19 other states with the same law on the books, the additional 11 states that support the same via case law, and Federal act of the same name, but I'm not going to hold my breathe. Its the protest of the day, and next week when something new happens, all the neo-hippies will run to that cause.

    The law doesn't protect ad-hoc discrimination, and it gives a clear avenue for normal, non-burdensome state interests to trump. I doubt anyone can point to where RFRA was used, in any state or federal case, for ad-hoc, "Not going to serve <insert group name> here!" discrimination.
    Yeah that is the right's narrative at the moment. Indiana's RFRA is an innocuous little law that wont harm a flea and what about all those other states with RFRAs...

    My state is a RFRA state and is attempting to block my city's addition of LGBT persons to the city's ADL. For the AG to make that claim there has to be some law...some formal arrangement of ideas that my city has to be in violation of...

    Why is the right running from the intent of this law? If the intent of the law is to not allow LGBT persons from bringing suit based on actions of a business owners or employers or state agencies....why not have the balls to claim the intent.

    Ive never seen Republicans want to change the narrative so quickly.


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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Christians don't 'tolerate' sin. They forgive the sinner. As a matter of fact they wage war on sin.

    IMO, 'some' Christians [and those of other faiths] have become way too submissive in regards to 'tolerating' sin.

    Jesus was crucified to take away our sins but, he said to go forth and sin NO MORE. Apparently some forgot that part.
    And apparently YOU FORGOT that your holy book says that first and foremost, you should leave judgement to a power above yourself

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Yeah that is the right's narrative at the moment. Indiana's RFRA is an innocuous little law that wont harm a flea and what about all those other states with RFRAs...

    My state is a RFRA state and is attempting to block my city's addition of LGBT persons to the city's ADL. For the AG to make that claim there has to be some law...some formal arrangement of ideas that my city has to be in violation of...

    Why is the right running from the intent of this law? If the intent of the law is to not allow LGBT persons from bringing suit based on actions of a business owners or employers or state agencies....why not have the balls to claim the intent.

    Ive never seen Republicans want to change the narrative so quickly.
    I don't know what an ADL is, but feel free to point out a case where RFRA was successfully used to justify whatever discrimination you are referring to.

    The intent of the law is pretty straightforward, since the same Federal law doesn't apply to most instances in the individual States. I don't know why you feel its directed at LGBT. Sounds like you are projecting your prejudices upon others.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Christians don't 'tolerate' sin. They forgive the sinner. As a matter of fact they wage war on sin.

    IMO, 'some' Christians [and those of other faiths] have become way too submissive in regards to 'tolerating' sin.

    Jesus was crucified to take away our sins but, he said to go forth and sin NO MORE. Apparently some forgot that part.
    Evangelicals seem unable to separate the two...sin from sinner. Because most of their hate and discrimination is aimed right at the sinner. A sin can not order a cake. A sin can not order flowers.


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