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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    A compelling problem with the Indiana RFRA law, is that Indiana does not have a statewide nondiscrimination law that protects sexual orientation and gender identity similar to civil rights laws forbidding discrimination based on race, color, sex, age, religion, and national origin. In states that do have statewide LGBT nondiscrimination protections, such civil rights laws are viewed by many legal scholars as a "compelling government interest" that trumps the RFRA.

    This is why George Stephanopoulos asked Pence yesterday if Indiana legislators plan on adding sexual orientation as a protected class under the state's civil rights laws. Pence's response; "I will not push for that. That's not on my agenda and that's not been the -- that's not been an objective of the people of the state of Indiana."

    What we have then, is Pence refusing to even consider a legislative fix that would render the current Indiana RFRA brouhaha a moot point.
    A question George did not ask...that should be ask and answered is if the state's RFRA disallows cities in Indiana from extending sexual orientation to their city anti-discrimination laws.

    My state is a RFRA state and my city has included LGBT persons into the city's ADL. The AG now Gov claimed that was a violation of state law.

    I'm sure this issue will be revived. As it should.


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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    When they pick and choose who is and how they are protected, then we have a problem.
    How would you suggest how one is chosen to be protected?


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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    OK, but your individual motives aren't all that relevant to someone else. When you try to impose your values on those who don't share them, do you expect them to roll over? You (figuratively speaking) certainly aren't, but you want to complain when the LGBT community doesn't want to do business with those who believe they (LGBT) aren't worthy of certain rights available to you, and spends millions to make sure those rights are NOT extended to them?
    We're not working from a position of hate or denial, only protecting and maintaining an age old belief system we hold dear.

    IMO, the homosexuals hate that belief system and wish it destroyed.
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    You did not know religion is a protected class?
    I know the religious are being discriminated against now and this law will protect them.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I know the religious are being discriminated against now and this law will protect them.
    How does a law protect a right in the Constitution?

    That is like saying the wax on your car gives you added protection to your seat belts and air bags.


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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    How would you suggest how one is chosen to be protected?
    If it were me, I wouldn't give privilege to deviant behavior. You want to live your life outside the boundaries of normality, do it on your own without the help of our laws..
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    We're not working from a position of hate or denial, only protecting and maintaining an age old belief system we hold dear.

    IMO, the homosexuals hate that belief system and wish it destroyed.
    "the blacks" wished for an age old system to be destroyed.

    how uppity, huh?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    How does a law protect a right in the Constitution?

    That is like saying the wax on your car gives you added protection to your seat belts and air bags.
    On the state level. [see the 10th amendment which has been overlooked here] it does and should.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    "the blacks" wished for an age old system to be destroyed.

    how uppity, huh?
    There's no comparison there.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    If it were me, I wouldn't give privilege to deviant behavior. You want to live your life outside the boundaries of normality, do it on your own without the help of our laws..
    equality is now a "privelege"

    maybe you should look up what that word actually means

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