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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I don't think he's squirming at all. That's an honest down-the-middle answer. Any dog whistle is a product of your imagination. I know how much you want there to be a dog whistle.
    It's a down the middle answer for a question that is "Yes" or "No." He's wanting to have it both ways - tell the anti-SSM community that they'll have a weapon to deny service to teh gays ("Yes"), and tell the rest of the country and the business community that the law is not a license to discriminate ("No"). It's one or the other. If it's the former, then there is no "faux" outrage on the part of us leftists. You've been saying it's the latter, "No", but yet defend Pence for his non-response. Like I keep saying, pick a side. There is no middle on that question.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    yeh, that's an economical and feasible solution to the problem at hand all right.
    Better than that, it's an economic opportunity

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Not as quickly and not as universally. And if their convictions are so solid, there should be no issue with them advertising them.
    The better response is the one we saw earlier, the one where businesses advertise that they serve everyone. A freedom solution

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That's his right to do so. And no it's him adding is two cents. [so to speak]

    The truth is, we are working from an entirely different worldview paradigm than the non-believers, and our motives are different from what they think.
    OK, but your individual motives aren't all that relevant to someone else. When you try to impose your values on those who don't share them, do you expect them to roll over? You (figuratively speaking) certainly aren't, but you want to complain when the LGBT community doesn't want to do business with those who believe they (LGBT) aren't worthy of certain rights available to you, and spends millions to make sure those rights are NOT extended to them?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    are all residents of alaska serviced by more than 1 within 500 miles?
    I can't see people of any sexual preference traveling 500 miles for a cake. Maybe that's why Alaskans like Sarah Palin are so adept at cooking their own confections

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    ok. so if there is a clause in the indiana law that if you are the ONLY bakery in 500 miles you can't descriminate, would you be ok with the law then?
    Bakeries don't provide essential services so that suggestion is not worthy of consideration

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    And the law acts as I said it does - since you're wanting to quote facts.

    The law does not yet identify bigotry and racism as a criminal offense.
    Not in those explicit terms...but nevertheless it does. If you discriminate based on bigotry and/or racism you are violating the law. America has not always been fast to get it right. Unfortunately we lag behind a lot of the modern world when it comes to freedom and equality. But...America eventually gets it right and bigotry will always fail.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Exactly. Where are the entrepreneurial homosexual bakers, when there is so much unmet demand? Maybe states should have laws that require people to open businesses, wherever a government agency has decided there are too few of a given type to suit the convenience of homosexual residents.
    There's an idea. Maybe every time a homosexual gets denied a wedding cake, the law should require him to open a bakery rather than sue the baker

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I love this. I can't stand how people have been made to immediately dismiss and hate anything associated with communism without even attempting discussion.
    omg I was just having this conversation with someone earlier today. I'll bet if you had a dollar for every time someone distorted the definition of "communism," well, you'd be one hell of a rich man!
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." --First Amendment to the United States Constitution

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    omg I was just having this conversation with someone earlier today. I'll bet if you had a dollar for every time someone distorted the definition of "communism," well, you'd be one hell of a rich man!
    Apparently the accepted definition is wrong

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