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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    where in the bible does it say I have to open a store and then violate the rights of other Americans?
    What rights? You have yet to say what rights are violated by not commencing in commerce with someone.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    you also have the freedom and right to go to another country that affords you the right to discriminate in public accommodation commerce, if it means so much to you.
    The only way to respond to that is to tell you where to shove it.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What rights? You have yet to say what rights are violated by not commencing in commerce with someone.
    that "someone's" rights.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The only way to respond to that is to tell you where to shove it.
    guess it doesn't really mean much to you after all.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I wouldn't go that far. If a poker group or book club with a couple dozen members doesn't want women, blacks, homosexuals, or whatever as members, I don't read Roberts or the Court's other decisions on state public accommodations laws to require them to let these people in.
    Agree, I was talking/thinking of larger organizations. Neighborhood book clubs? No. Completely private male-only clubs at universities? Yes. Part of the justification in one such ruling claimed that a decades old social club fell under public accommodations simply because they served food to their members from time to time.

    Nor do fraternities have to admit women, for example. Despite the best efforts of leftists--many of whom, ironically, call themselves "liberals"--the First Amendment freedom of association still exists. So does the implied right of privacy (which is the basis for the right to abortion) that the Court also discussed in the Jaycees case. If it were up to these junior gauleiters, you couldn't have a damned dinner party in your own home without including at least one member of every grievance group on your guest list.
    US Civil Rights law (Title IX) specifically exempts fraternities and sororities (and boy scouts, girl scouts, YMCA, and others). Were this not the case, I have no doubt that the boy scouts would now simply be "scouts" - maybe fraternities and sororities not far behind?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    that "someone's" rights.
    Can you tell me what right or rights anti-discrimination laws protect? I have been asking that question for a few years now and so far no one has been able to answer it.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    Woo hoo, another baseless divination of a "truthie" by a member pro-gay rights crowd. By the way, did you actually read the law (that's actually a rhetorical question)? Do you have any reason to ASSUME, other than your baseless speculation, that Pence's desire for clarification means it is not in compliance with federal law? Nope.

    FACT: As stated previously, the law is nearly identical to the federal law. There are no significant differences.



    Indiana's Religious Freedom Restoration Act, Explained | The Weekly Standard

    Might it be that Pence is trying to sooth the hysterical pro-gay rights loons and their fellow-traveling nitwits (and spineless institutional groups?). Naaaawwww.
    The Federal RFRA is less than a page long. Indiana's is several pages long.

    Obviously, they're not the same.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    man....this country sometimes. if I was gay person and some old religious lady's cake shop wasn't comfortable with making me a cake, I'd just go somewhere else. But in this "sue them all", shrill, "everything offends me" America we now have RUN THE OLD LADY OUT OF BUSINESS of she refuses to bake a gay person a cake.

    just step back and look at the lunacy on display here. all in the name of political correctness. even if we have to cannibalize the spirit of the country itself to do it.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Can you tell me what right or rights anti-discrimination laws protect? I have been asking that question for a few years now and so far no one has been able to answer it.
    To save us all some time, I'd simply suggest you find SCOTUS decisions affirming these laws due to the equal protection clause.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    man....this country sometimes. if I was gay person and some old religious lady's cake shop wasn't comfortable with making me a cake, I'd just go somewhere else. But in this "sue them all", shrill, "everything offends me" America we now have RUN THE OLD LADY OUT OF BUSINESS of she refuses to bake a gay person a cake.

    just step back and look at the lunacy on display here. all in the name of political correctness. even if we have to cannibalize the spirit of the country itself to do it.

    and what would you do if that was the only 1 cake shop within 500 miles of you? or if all cake shops were owned and run by religious opponents of your life?
    etc

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