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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Nope. You can believe that all you want in your fantasy world....the problem you have is that the laws of this great country disagree with you. Sorry...but that's the way it is.
    Circular reasoning. Supporting the law with the law is not an argument.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So the solution for them is to not practice their rights? So when anyone makes a choice and it results in their rights being violated by someone else I can just say they didn't have to make that choice. Interesting
    They don't have the right to discriminate. Period. What is so difficult to understand about that? When you open a business you don't get to write your own rules. No matter how much you stomp your feet and throw temper tantrums. You open a business....comply with the law. If you don't want to comply with the law...don't open a business. Simple. Sorry.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Circular reasoning. Supporting the law with the law is not an argument.

    Its not circular at all. In fact very linear. Don't want to comply with the law --------don't open a business. Very simple.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    They don't have the right to discriminate. Period. What is so difficult to understand about that? When you open a business you don't get to write your own rules. No matter how much you stomp your feet and throw temper tantrums. You open a business....comply with the law. If you don't want to comply with the law...don't open a business. Simple. Sorry.
    And in Indiana they will now be complying with the law
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    They don't have the right to discriminate. Period. What is so difficult to understand about that? When you open a business you don't get to write your own rules. No matter how much you stomp your feet and throw temper tantrums. You open a business....comply with the law. If you don't want to comply with the law...don't open a business. Simple. Sorry.
    Lots of things are hard to understand about that, but among them is the fact that the right to discriminate is necessary for human rights to exist. It is also very apparent that requiring people to obtain a business license is a violation of property rights as you are forcing someone to agree to a contract to practice their rights.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    And in Indiana they will now be complying with the law
    The law will never stand. Thanks to the Governor and the legislature...the people of Indiana are going to spend millions of taxpayer dollars defending a law that will be stricken without question. Not to mentions that damage in billions that will be done to their state as a result.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Lots of things are hard to understand about that, but among them is the fact that the right to discriminate is necessary for human rights to exist. It is also very apparent that requiring people to obtain a business license is a violation of property rights as you are forcing someone to agree to a contract to practice their rights.
    Once again...you simply couldn't be more wrong if you tried. What makes you think that a person is free to violate the laws simply because they obtain a business license? That has to be one of the most insane assertions I have seen in ages.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Once again...you simply couldn't be more wrong if you tried. What makes you think that a person is free to violate the laws simply because they obtain a business license? That has to be one of the most insane assertions I have seen in ages.
    I said no such thing. What I said is that making people sign a contract to practice their rights is a right violation.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I said no such thing. What I said is that making people sign a contract to practice their rights is a right violation.
    That is exactly what you are saying. It is not a violation to make people get a business license to open a business. It is also not a violation of their rights to make them follow the law. Just because you obtain a business license does not mean you are free to disregard the law and make your own rules. Sorry...it just isn't.
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