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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    10 bucks says this law will backfire when enterprising liberals decide that serving Republicans I'd against their religion.
    That's fine. I just won't patronize that store. People discriminate all the time when they decide what stores to patronize. So, it's okay for me not to patronize a store because the owner is gay but it's not okay for the owner to refuse to serve me because I'm gay? That's rank hypocrisy. I think there should be a law that requires mandatory patronage of businesses. It's not fair that people discriminate between businesses.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Indeed a perverted interpenetration of the First Amendment.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Indeed a perverted interpenetration of the First Amendment.
    How is it perverted?
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by freeRadical View Post
    How is it perverted?
    I find that using religion as a guise to cover up bigotry is an incorrect utilization of the 1st Amendment.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Illegal activities? The mormons may have violated their own internal rules by creatively accounting for monies spent, but they did nothing illegal. They retain the same right to advocate for or against legislation as anyone else. They just have to show a religous basis for doing so.
    Actually....no. The Mormon illegal activity is prop 8 is widely documented. They should have lost their tax exempt status over their activities...but no one cares enough to enforce the rules. Lying and deceiving in the so-called "name of God" is still lying and deceiving.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I don't care even a little bit. Seems like free political speech to me. Regardless, I note the absence of a link to substantiate your claim.
    Churches are not allowed to engage in political speech if they want to retain their tax exempt status. I'll get you a link.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I don't care even a little bit. Seems like free political speech to me. Regardless, I note the absence of a link to substantiate your claim.
    Here are your links:

    Mormons Found Guilty on 13 Counts of Prop 8 Malfeasance, Fined by FPPC | California Progress Report

    Mormongate -- The Church's Cover-up of its Prop 8 Funding*|*Fred Karger


    And if you are willing to spend 7 minutes....this is the best one which documents clearly the illegal Mormon activities:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWCum9yQhTg
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    OK, so you're smart enough to know better than to equate those two, as it would be absurd. I guess that's a good thing.

    In the meantime, the rest of the world who hasn't accepted the Orwellian redefinition of the word will continue to refer to the CEO who fired his worker because he's gay as a bigot or perhaps anti-gay bigot, and pretty much no one will have any doubt about the meaning we're trying to get across. Exactly no one not trying to miss the point will label the CFO who resigned in protest as a "bigot." We'd all recognize he's standing against bigotry and discrimination in the workplace.
    I understand what you're saying...

    But who changed the definition?

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Churches are not allowed to engage in political speech if they want to retain their tax exempt status. I'll get you a link.
    But individual church members are.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Here are your links:

    Mormons Found Guilty on 13 Counts of Prop 8 Malfeasance, Fined by FPPC | California Progress Report

    Mormongate -- The Church's Cover-up of its Prop 8 Funding*|*Fred Karger


    And if you are willing to spend 7 minutes....this is the best one which documents clearly the illegal Mormon activities:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWCum9yQhTg
    Penny-ante nitpicking. Inconsequential.
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