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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
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    That's not the issue. The issue is why. If the photographer said he was already booked, there would be no problem. If the photographer says "I can't do it because Jesus wants me to marginalize people who are born like you.", that's were the issue is.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Just as it is appropriate for one to choose a business with which one wishes, so should a business be able to choose its customers. While refusing to do business with gays is stupid business I stand on the side of the business to choose to conduct stupid business if it so wishes. While I think this is a stupid law it is less stupid than whatever law caused the government to decide with whom a business should conduct its business. If one stupid law counteracts another stupid law then I guess it is a zero sum.

    The constitution is designed to limit the power of government and to protect the people from the government. It has no business messing with business so long as a business isn't cheating or hurting anyone. Refusing service to someone whether they are gay, green or aren't wearing shoes and a shirt, is a matter of choice and freedom. Those folks can find businesses that are less stupid. People should have the right to make stupid decisions if that is what they want to do. It is not the role of government to protect people from their own decisions so long as the decisions aren't otherwise hurtful to others.

    That is what this Hoosier believes.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This will clearly be declared unconstitutional if for nothing else being impractical in practice unless there's a companion bill that requires gay people to wear the scarlet letter.
    I don't believe that the constitution grants the federal government any powers that would give them a say in the matter.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    Can I get a witness?
    You do know Black ministers are angry at the Gay agenda for stealing their civil rights thunder? They don't find it humorous.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Hiding behind religion to practice bigotry is a crock of chit. If they held their religious convictions so strongly they wouldn't be open. They would have to refuse service to all "sinners".
    Maybe, through their actions, gays have raised themselve to a new level of indecency. A bigger , more in your face sort of sin
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't profess to be a US Constitution expert, but doesn't the Commerce Clause give government the right to do just that - determine the laws and regulations under which intrastate and interstate commerce may be conducted?
    Yes, exactly. The federal government's power to intrude on the rights of business owners in this area is very limited in scope. The only reason they have any power at all is because of some creative interpretation of the interstate commerce clause.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post


    Rock on guys.....rock on.
    If, instead of forcing businesses to change the government still allowed that practice...how many do you think would still be in business today?

    Personally...I think history has PROVEN society grows. Society changes. Societies tends to evolve. Had their not been a civil war, I truly believe slavery would have died within 10-15 years and the civil rights transformation would have been both swifter and healthier.

    The gay rights movement is no different. Many people have changed their minds and position on gay rights. You know what HASNT brought about that change? Bitter angry hate filled people running around the streets in assless chaps carrying signs about how 'normal' they are and screaming in peoples faces about their 'rights'. All that has EVER done is A-made themselves look like clowns in assless chaps and B-strengthened peoples resolve against them.

    A baker chooses to not bake a cake for a gay wedding. Get the **** over it and send your business elsewhere. Tell your friends. Hell...if enough agree the baker that chose not to do business with you will either adapt or go out of business.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You do know Black ministers are angry at the Gay agenda for stealing their civil rights thunder? They don't find it humorous.

    You know that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People acknowledges that same-sex civil marriage is a Civil Rights struggle.


    "“The mission of the NAACP has always been to ensure the political, social and economic equality of all people,” said Roslyn M. Brock, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the NAACP. “We have and will oppose efforts to codify discrimination into law.”

    “Civil marriage is a civil right and a matter of civil law. The NAACP’s support for marriage equality is deeply rooted in the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution and equal protection of all people.” said Benjamin Todd Jealous, President and CEO of the NAACP."

    NAACP Passes Resolution in Support of Marriage Equality | NAACP



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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Then I have to patronize businesses that don't discriminate against me. Problem solved
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    I am an atheist in a mixed race marriage and I think private, non-essential businesses should be able to discriminate for whatever stupid reason they want. And we have the right to publicly shame them out of business. I sure don't want a theocracy.
    However, we shouldn't be allowing any government to run them out of business or fine/jail them.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Reagan ignoring AIDS until he absolutely couldn't anymore.
    Ah the Democratic Underground, Joy Behar and Democracy Now! perpetuated lie .... got anything more believable and less... uhh... fibby that that one?

    Ronald Reagan and AIDS: Correcting the Record | RealClearPolitics
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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