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    Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

    Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

    The pilot was locked out of the cockpit. The co-pilot, who remained in the cockpit, never said a word between then and the crash.

    Was it suicide? I'm not using the word, I don't know. Given the information I have at this time … I can tell you that he deliberately made possible the loss of altitude of the aircraft."

    The current interpretation, Brice added, is that the co-pilot had "a desire to destroy this plane."
    Nothing has been reported about the co-pilot's background.

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    Re: Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

    Hmm... how many "infidels" were on board?
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    Re: Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

    The pilot was locked out of the cockpit. The co-pilot, who remained in the cockpit, never said a word between then and the crash.

    Nothing has been reported about the co-pilot's background.
    I do not think, I would have asked the owner of the plane manufacturer why it crashed, if I really wanted to know. This answer is too much, what the French government (and the Germans and Spaniards) needed.
    There is no way that they would want to damage the reputation of their prestige airplane maker and cause a recall of that company's most widely sold plane, because the computers and electronics are faulty.

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    Re: Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

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    Re: Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I do not think, I would have asked the owner of the plane manufacturer why it crashed, if I really wanted to know. This answer is too much, what the French government (and the Germans and Spaniards) needed.
    There is no way that they would want to damage the reputation of their prestige airplane maker and cause a recall of that company's most widely sold plane, because the computers and electronics are faulty.
    I have NO clue what it is you're trying to say. The Co pilot kept the door locked, and made the deliberate decision to crash the plane.
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    Re: Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

    The co-pilot was German, 28 years old, named Andreas Lubitz. "Nothing in the evidence gained so far suggests terrorism as a factor"



    Cockpit doors have been made secure since 911. The pilot's desperate attempts to get back in were always doomed to fail.
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    Re: Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    I have NO clue what it is you're trying to say. The Co pilot kept the door locked, and made the deliberate decision to crash the plane.
    Very simple. France not only is part owner of Airbus, but sees it as a prestigious national institution. The conflict of interest throws doubt on this outcome of the inquiry. Recalling all the A 320's because the electronics do not function would be a nightmare to the owners and the Grand Nation alike. The French should have turned over the investigation to a third party. Alone the idea of an interested party doing the investigation is preposterous. This way we will never know, what happened. Or do you believe they are incapable of tampering with the black box?

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    Re: Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Very simple. France not only is part owner of Airbus, but sees it as a prestigious national institution. The conflict of interest throws doubt on this outcome of the inquiry. Recalling all the A 320's because the electronics do not function would be a nightmare to the owners and the Grand Nation alike. The French should have turned over the investigation to a third party. Alone the idea of an interested party doing the investigation is preposterous. This way we will never know, what happened. Or do you believe they are incapable of tampering with the black box?
    It's certainly not in their national interest to reveal that they had a crazy, suicidal co-pilot on their staff, either. If they were inclined to tamper with the facts then they would have come up with a different story. That the captain was locked out of the cockpit and the plane was started on a descent deliberately is apparently what they learned from the recording devices, and that data goes through many hands. It would be one of those grand conspiracies that in practice would be impossible to carry out.

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    Re: Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Very simple. France not only is part owner of Airbus, but sees it as a prestigious national institution. The conflict of interest throws doubt on this outcome of the inquiry. Recalling all the A 320's because the electronics do not function would be a nightmare to the owners and the Grand Nation alike. The French should have turned over the investigation to a third party. Alone the idea of an interested party doing the investigation is preposterous. This way we will never know, what happened. Or do you believe they are incapable of tampering with the black box?
    Are you actually following the news? Or are you suggesting some kind of conspiracy theory?
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    Re: Germanwings Crash: Recordings Could Yield Cockpit Door Clues - NBC News

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    It's certainly not in their national interest to reveal that they had a crazy, suicidal co-pilot on their staff, either. If they were inclined to tamper with the facts then they would have come up with a different story. That the captain was locked out of the cockpit and the plane was started on a descent deliberately is apparently what they learned from the recording devices, and that data goes through many hands. It would be one of those grand conspiracies that in practice would be impossible to carry out.
    You are right, it is not nice to have had a pilot commit suicide by crashing the plane. But do you think it would be better to say he was poorly qualified? Personally, I think this story is much prefeable for the airline.

    And in any event, the inquiry was done by the French. It is their conflict of interest that is important, though, the Germans and Spanish are also interested in not having Airbus hurt. And a finding that the crash was due to electronic failure would be devastating. There have been a number of problems with Airbus electronics some resulting in near crashes and one two years ago probably was at fault for a crash. That would mean a reputational hit especially as other Airbus models have also had problems with the electronics that seem to be far too complex, they would have to recall the airplanes, check and probably replace the present system. since the A320 is the most often sold plane of their fleet, we are talking a huge amount of money.

    And how would you go about a cover up? The best way is to leak an exciting story that everyone will jump on via a breach of secrecy to of all places the New York Times. That way the story is not coming from you. Of course that is the way to do it. And do you really know that the co pilot was alone in the cockpit? All you have is the leaked story confirmed by the leaking source with the multi-billion conflict of interest.

    Unless the French were afraid of the results of the investigation it was absolutely stupid of them with that type of conflict of interest to do the inquiry themselves. I mean, this does not take a "grand conspiracy". It is very simple to arrange. And it is the way the French think. When I was working with a French company we discussed the contract we wanted to do with the Sparkassen. Paris management's point of view was that if we chose Frankfurt instead of Paris as court of jurisdiction, we would have to accept that we would loose litigation every time.

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