Page 15 of 28 FirstFirst ... 5131415161725 ... LastLast
Results 141 to 150 of 273

Thread: Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

  1. #141
    Sage

    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    IL
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    26,421

    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah, I guess Obama can claim a victory, albeit, a very hollow one. In the end cost / benefit analysis,
    Kind of like "Mission Accomplished"--we're still dealing with that hollow victory.
    We may never know the end cost/benefit analysis in my lifetime.

    And then we have the three dumbest words of all time--"Bring It On".
    I'm sure you would agree that "THEY" have brought it on.

    "Smooth move there eh ex lax" as we both might say to Bungling Bush .
    Chemists Have Solutions .

  2. #142
    Sage
    Hatuey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,688

    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I'm not running from anything, ignoring anything, or backing down from anything I have said.
    Good. So where is the evidence? Your diatribes are boring me. Why can't you show what everyone supposedly knew and when they knew it? I can wait all day for you to post these "facts" that you've avoided posting for what... 3 posts now? C'man Grim17. Post the evidence that they knew it. I can wait all day if I have to. Hell, I already know why you won't post it
    Last edited by Hatuey; 03-26-15 at 01:33 AM.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

  3. #143
    Temp Suspended
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Los Angeles area
    Last Seen
    01-16-17 @ 12:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    8,270

    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Riiiiiiight.

    Every single liberal hates America.



    I am neither lib nor con...but do you even begin to realize how ridiculous that statement of yours is?

    I strongly guess; 'no'.
    What you guess does not interest me.

    Statists dislike most things American, including our constitution. For these know-nothing drones, as for their president, the Constitution is just an obstacle to implementing utopian, centrally controlled social schemes in which individual liberties are subordinated to the power of the state. They indignantly deny this animosity toward American culture and traditions and the rule of law, and yet they prove it all the time. They are constantly running down this country, while making excuses for its enemies--they can be seen doing this again and again on forums like these every day.

    These fine citizens, most of whom don't understand even basic civics, share their president's contempt for the Constitution and applaud his lawlessness. Like him, they think government by executive fiat is just fine--and the separation of powers (whose vital purpose they neither understand nor care about) be damned. The reason Barack Obama wants to "fundamentally transform" the United States is that he does not like it--and his acolytes applaud him because they don't like it either.

    No one who wished the United States well would buy the freedom of a traitor by releasing five very dangerous jihadists so they can go back to waging war against us. People like Mr. Obama and Ms. Rice admire rats like Bergdahl, as they made clear. They believe that to betray this country as he did is to "serve it with honor and distinction," and that it was unthinkable to leave him with his jihadist pals. The effort to recover a traitor got five good men killed, but for the sorry specimens in this administration, their lives don't count. They share the sentiment of Mr. Obama's preacher of twenty years: "God damn America."
    Last edited by matchlight; 03-26-15 at 02:23 AM.

  4. #144
    Sage

    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    SW Virginia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    15,830

    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "Desertion" and "treason" are not synonyms.
    I didn't say they were. Read the findings.
    "I believe that man will not merely endure: he will prevail. He is immortal, not because he alone among creatures has an inexhaustible voice, but because he has a soul, a spirit capable of compassion and sacrifice and endurance." William Faulkner

  5. #145
    Running to Happiness
    Renae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    San Antonio Texas
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    33,932
    Blog Entries
    14

    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I'm not running from anything, ignoring anything, or backing down from anything I have said. I happen to believe the 7 guys that served in his platoon with him, while you obviously think they are liars. Why don't you send me a link to the guys in his platoon who tell a different story?

    Only in the progressive world would someone actually claim that Obama had no knowledge of the fact that Bergdahl willfully deserted his post in the dead of night. That means you must also believe that members of his own Administration lied to him. Like I said, only in a progressive world could such stupidity and willful ignorance exist.

    This all started because you attacked republicans for criticizing Obama for the deal he made for Bergdahl, claiming they all were in favor of it before it took place.

    That sir is a lie, because none of them had all the facts.

    [I tore a liberal thread to shreads back when the trade took place, that claimed Republicans said "bring him home" before the deal, and changed there minds and opposed bringing him home after the deal was made... I proved that thread was a lie using the very statement that were made by republicans, just as I have shown your words attacking republicans to be a lie.

    You lied, fibbed, told a whopper, an untruth... You attacked those you disagree with politically based on false pretenses, in what can only be described as a lame ass attempt to carry water for our dishonest, failed president. Then you put the icing on the cake by not having the integrity to own up to your dishonesty, even when you've been caught dead to rights.

    Put simply, you're a lying disgrace... aka, just another dangerous, dishonest progressive
    You don't really expect Hatuey to not enter into hackery do you?
    C.T.L.W. You figure it out



  6. #146
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 07:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Good. So where is the evidence? Your diatribes are boring me. Why can't you show what everyone supposedly knew and when they knew it? I can wait all day for you to post these "facts" that you've avoided posting for what... 3 posts now? C'man Grim17. Post the evidence that they knew it. I can wait all day if I have to. Hell, I already know why you won't post it

    "What" are you back in here with that BS again. Damn, what it is with you Lefties when YOUR MAN comes under fire. Knowing not one of ya would take a bullet for him. That none of you can throw a baseball 90 feet and throw that strike. That all just look to run away and hide from all that bad news.

    Lets see you want to go back 2 years and want people to post up all the Repubs said at first. Knowing they knew nothing at the time. Yet then some changed their stance once details from those who served with the Deserter came out and gave background on the Traitor. Now you act like you made some point while not even being realistic? That is some hilarious ****.

    Yet you can't even figure out when the Repubs changed their statements. Some never changed their stance. Like your BOY Johnny Quest McCain.....who was a prisoner of War that gave up info to the Enemy when they captured him and beat his ass non stop for days.

    Awww its a shame you lefties can't handle people talking **** about those who you Idolize that are weak and cowardly. Why would you expect those to not talk **** about those of the weak and meek that can't handle to much reality? Let me guess you also run around and tell all how you have friends from the Right too, huh?

    Make Note: the New Repubs who really are old school are out and about.....and one thing is for certain. We will play just like you lefties do.....while doing all we can to destroy that which you love most. That Free Ride!

  7. #147
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 07:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah, I guess Obama can claim a victory, albeit, a very hollow one. In the end cost / benefit analysis, Obama and his legendary negotiation skills (or rather lack there of), he was an easy mark for the likes of the Islamic Fundamentalists Militants.

    5 senior, hardened militant leaders for a single deserted, hardly a bargain that one should be proud of. Even at one for one, it'd still would have been a losing deal for the US.


    Mornin EB. Even better was the BO peep excuse of......they found out they were going to kill him. Despite being able to do so at any given time. Despite threatening to do even before the swap. What BO didn't want out there was the fact that he was Negotiating with terrorists. The Same terrorists tied to AQ and the Same ones that BO gave an Office to in Qatar.

  8. #148
    Sage
    Hatuey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,688

    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    "[COLOR="#800000"]Lets see you want to go back 2 years and want people to post up all the Repubs said at first. Knowing they knew nothing at the time.
    Posts such as these make you look like you don't read the posts of others. Since when is February 2014, "2 years ago"? Get serious and come back when you've got something other than silliness and diatribes. K thanks. Or is it that you can't even shown what the administration knew? I think it's a little bit of A and B. Anywho, since Grim17 loves factcheckers:

    Did John McCain flip-flop on the Bergdahl deal? - The Washington Post

    As you can see, the key elements of the deal that was announced last week were apparent in the article four months ago — the exchange of five Taliban members held at Guantanamo for Bergdahl and the protective custody of Qatar.Throughout the discussions, it has always been the same five men, so their identities would have been no surprise to any lawmaker keeping track of the discussions. The five are Khirullah Said Wali Khairkhwa, the former interior minister; Mullah Mohammed Fazi, a senior commander; Mullah Norullah Noori, a provincial governor; Abdul Haq Wasiq, deputy chief of intelligence; and Mohammned Nabi Omari, a member of a joint al-Qaeda-Taliban cell in eastern Khost province.
    In August 2011, the Associated Press reported that Afghan negotiators were seeking the release of Taliban fighters in exchange for Bergdahl, naming specifically Khairkhwa, Fazi and Wasiq. In January 2012, the Guardian newspaper reported that Washington would free Khairkhwa and Noori, and possibly Fazi, in exchange for getting the Taliban to open an office in Qatar for peace talks.
    In a March 9, 2012, report, the Afghanistan Analysts Network issued a long report on the Guantanamo Five, which actually found that the men were less hard-line than believed.
    Then in August 2012, Reuters reported that the Obama administration had offered to trade “five senior Taliban leaders” — including Khairkhwa, Wasiq, Noori and Fazi — for Bergdahl. The headline on Business Insider’s Web site was: “The US Wants To Trade Five Taliban Leaders In Guantánamo For This One American POW.”
    In April 2013, Post columnist David Ignatius reported that the same deal nearly came together in 2011: “They worked out a deal in which the United States would release five Taliban prisoners and send them to Qatar. The Taliban, in return, would condemn international terrorism and release U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, whom the militants had been holding since 2009.” But it fell through because of a conflict with Afghan President Hamid Karzai.
    In other words, these names were not a secret — and in any case, McCain sits on the relevant Senate committees (Armed Services and Foreign Relations), with security clearances, and thus could have found out about the names and the background of the individuals.

    McCain may have thought he left himself an out when he said his support was dependent on the details. But then he can’t object to the most important detail — the identity of the prisoners — that was known at the time he indicated his support. McCain earns an upside-down Pinocchio, constituting a flip-flop.
    Attachment 67182363

    I guess McCain was caught in a ... catch 22?
    Last edited by Hatuey; 03-26-15 at 07:08 AM.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

  9. #149
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 07:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    5 Taliban leaders go free probably to wreak havoc and death upon us and our allies. The one we traded the 5 Taliban leaders for goes to jail. Is there any logic behind this?
    Heya Pero .....the left isn't to bright on such finite details such as that. Oh and they can't seem to find a couple of them in Qatar. Wonder what happened to BO peep keeping tabs on them?

    If they are missing in Qatar.....did BO peep fail again?

  10. #150
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 07:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Posts such as these make you look like you don't read the posts of others. Since when is February 2014, "2 years ago"? Get serious and come back when you've got something other than silliness and diatribes. K thanks. Or is it that you can't even shown what the administration knew? I think it's a little bit of A and B.
    Oh come on now.....that's now when Your Traitor went missing. Do you need to recheck dates?

    Again what Part about Republican changings their stance after news was released can't you figure out? Oh wait......it took you 6 years to figure out why an opposing party does what it needs to do against the party of Sell outs.

Page 15 of 28 FirstFirst ... 5131415161725 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •