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Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

It's really not up to the president at all. It shouldn't be a big issue for a candidate, the president can't do much about abortions. Although Obama has decided to try and do things that are unconstitutional and not in his power.

It's just plain not in the Constitution for the federal government to control this. It's up to the States, not a decision that involves the president.

If every president strictly followed the constitution on everything, I can only imagine where we would be.. Can you imagine the outrage if states decided to control what churches were built? Same concept, state control of things like this is dividing, and doesn't work well at all.
 
Abortion, contraceptives, rape victims.. You appear to not care about gay rights. Hm.

Yes, I don't care about government marriage or people that desire to be part of it. It's a system that controls marriage and the terms of relationships that I abolished.

Those issues are not new or anything I would describe as progressive. I was thinking that perhaps you had something new to speak of from feminists, but apparently you don't.
 
"I vas only obeying da law".
 
People can get Viagra on these plans, are you ok with that? I want universal healthcare like many other countries, or at least something similar to what Switzerland has.

If it was something that insurance companies agreed with and weren't mandated to make part of their plans, yes, I do.
 
But who till take care of these people, certainly not privatized healthcare without regulation from the government.

Those interested in their care. You seem interested in it, so why not you?
 
How is it "forced on you."

Exactly what do think law and mandates are? Suggestions? Some advice by some friends? Please don't tell me you don't realize that law is force.
 
I can't believe this.
He declared his candidacy yesterday saying he was going to repeal every single word.
It may be mandatory, tho I see no reason he couldn't get private insurance and pay a penalty if required. That would be more consistent with his politics until now.
No, this is not April Fools, this is a real headline.

Ted Cruz going on Obamacare
By Dana Bash and MJ Lee, CNN
Updated 5:54 PM ET, Tue March 24, 2015
Ted Cruz going on Obamacare - CNN.com

[VIDEO interview with Dana Bash]


Ted Cruz follows the law, confuses Democrats. News at 11.
 
If every president strictly followed the constitution on everything, I can only imagine where we would be.. Can you imagine the outrage if states decided to control what churches were built? Same concept, state control of things like this is dividing, and doesn't work well at all.

Not likely to happen since the due process clause was used by the Supreme Court to impose on States to include the Bill of Rights in their Constitutions.

In addition, the Court used the Due Process Clause to extend the Bill of Rights to the states over time through a practice known as “incorporation.”

Due Process Equal Protection and Disenfranchisement | Equality and the 14th Amendment | Constitution USA | PBS
 
HE and his wife CAN USE COBRA. Probably cost a few dollar More to Maintain his Principles.
Of course, if she worked for Goldman Sachs (and will again), a few dollars more a month is no biggie!

AGAIN from my post:

"...He could sign up for coverage through COBRA, the law that requires employers to offer their employees health insurance for 18 months after they quit. If Cruz is the very optimistic type, he will need coverage for 20 months — from now until the election next November. So his coverage could, theoretically leave him short.

The other problem with COBRA: it's expensive. Typically, the employer and the employee split the price of an insurance premium. But former employees on COBRA pay the entire cost.

Cruz could buy individual market coverage without using the exchange, although that shopping experience can be messy. Outside of the exchange, there's no central repository of health insurance plans that lets you explore different options. While Healthcare.gov did indeed have a disastrous launch, the website now is actually pretty good for comparing different plans.

Then there's the option of not buying coverage at all and paying a fine.
This year, the Cruz family would pay either a $1,300 penalty for 2015 ($325 each for Cruz, his wife, and his two daughters) or 2 percent of their income, whichever is greater. That's likely cheaper than buying an insurance plan but also comes with the massive downside of remaining uninsured...​

So Mr Renegade could have even gone for No coverage too and Filibustered in REAL Life.

Man, you are Wrigid Wright-Wing Wrong on EVERY Issue.

So? Why should they sign up for COBRA? As an employee of the Congress, he gets insurance coverage just like the rest of them do. He can't sign up for the insurance that the rest of the bloodsuckers had been getting courtesy of the taxpayers because the law they championed (the ACA) rendered that old way of getting insurance obsolete, and now all of them have to sign up for exchange insurance - again, because the law they passed says so.

If this happened prior to January 1, 2014, it wouldn't have made the news - even the partisan sites. It would have been simply one more DC staffer or politician getting insurance through their federal insurance offering, and you and I and the left wing partisans and the Kardashians and everyone else would never have heard about it.

Epic fail for the partisan effort to make this a bad reflection on Cruz.
 
It is literally beyond belief. I mean I get the puppets, but what was the deal with all the remote control shark balloons? And seriously, no way he wasn't wearing a prosthetic.

Just goes to show how the ACA really does work for everyone!

:lamo
 
It's definitely ironic. Good to see the normal partisan talking points for both sides are still being worked.
 
So? Why should they sign up for COBRA? As an employee of the Congress, he gets insurance coverage just like the rest of them do. He can't sign up for the insurance that the rest of the bloodsuckers had been getting courtesy of the taxpayers because the law they championed (the ACA) rendered that old way of getting insurance obsolete, and now all of them have to sign up for exchange insurance - again, because the law they passed says so.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but couldn't Cruz forgo government insurance and buy private insurance for his family?
 
Just goes to show how the ACA really does work for everyone!

:lamo

Full disclosure: When I wrote that the OP only contained the words "I can't believe this."

Whether that was a browser problem on my end or the OP was submitted incomplete I decided to have fun with whatever it was that mbig was incredulous over.
 
Maybe I'm mistaken, but couldn't Cruz forgo government insurance and buy private insurance for his family?

No. Congress is required to go through the exchanges.
 
Full disclosure: When I wrote that the OP only contained the words "I can't believe this."

Whether that was a browser problem on my end or the OP was submitted incomplete I decided to have fun with whatever it was that mbig was incredulous over.

nice...
 
One thing is for sure. He is going to look pretty ridiculous harping on the Affordable Care Act while being on it. :roll:

The same way all the Democrats looked ridiculous when the used the Bush tax cuts when filling their taxes. Oh wait, that didn't happen because they were following the law.
 
No. Congress is required to go through the exchanges.

Isn't that only if he wants the employer subsidy? If he's declining the subsidy, I'm not sure why he can't go out and get a private family plan from Texas or wherever.
 
No. Congress is required to go through the exchanges.

From the official website:

The ObamaCare Health Insurance Exchange Marketplace opened Oct 1st, 2013. The ObamaCare health insurance exchanges, or ObamaCare exchanges, are online marketplaces for health insurance. Americans can use their state’s “Affordable” Insurance Exchange (marketplace) to obtain coverage from competing private health care providers.

And...

Ted Cruz Wants You To Believe He's Legally Required To Sign Up For Obamacare. He's Not. | ThinkProgress

The Affordable Care Act does not compel members of Congress to enroll in DC’s health care exchange; it simply cuts off the government contribution to their insurance plans if they buy their policies elsewhere. “The final rule extends a Government contribution towards health benefits plans for Members of Congress and designated congressional staff so long as the health benefits plans are purchased via the appropriate SHOP as determined by the Director,” a summary of the final rule says. “Nothing in the final rule or the law prevents a Member of Congress or designated congressional staff from declining a Government contribution for him or herself by choosing a different option for their health insurance coverage.
 
No. Congress is required to go through the exchanges.

Really?



https://www.opm.gov/retirement-serv...nefits-administration-letters/2013/13-207.pdf

Nothing in the final rule or the law prevents a Member of Congress or designated
congressional staff from declining a Government contribution for him or herself by choosing a
different option for their health insurance coverage.

Because a Government contribution is, in essence, an employer contribution,the final rule
clarifies that Members of Congress and designated congressional staff must enroll in an
appropriate SHOP as determined by the Director in order to receive a Government contribution
.


So he is not required he can choose a different option, he just wouldn't get the government contribution. I guess he can sit down now.

Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) took the Senate floor at 2:41 pm with a promise to speak out against Obamacare “until I am no longer able to stand.”



Ted Cruz Reads ‘Green Eggs and Ham’ on Senate Floor
 
Maybe I'm mistaken, but couldn't Cruz forgo government insurance and buy private insurance for his family?
No. Congress is required to go through the exchanges.
Ahh.
The usual Wrong quipping from Jmotivator, despite the fact it's already been busted a few time by me. (COBRA etc)

Hey, Righties, give him a few more likes for those empty wisecracks!


Ted Cruz Wants You To Believe He’s Legally Required To Sign Up For Obamacare. He’s Not.

BY IGOR VOLSKY
MARCH 25, 2015 AT 11:50 AM
Ted Cruz Wants You To Believe He's Legally Required To Sign Up For Obamacare. He's Not. | ThinkProgress

Newly-minted presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) admitted that he would grudgingly sign up for health care coverage through the Affordable Care Act on Tuesday, just one day after announcing that he intends to repeal “every word of Obamacare” if elected president.
Cruz framed the decision as one of inevitability.
[........]
“I believe we should follow the text of every law, even laws I disagree with,” Cruz said. “It’s one of the real differences — if you look at President Obama and the lawlessness, if he disagrees with a law he simply refuses to follow it or claims the authority to unilaterally change.”

Cruz should consider the law more closely.

The Affordable Care Act does Not compel members of Congress to enroll in DC’s health care exchange; it simply cuts off the Government Contribution to their insurance plans if they buy their policies elsewhere. “The final rule extends a Government contribution towards health benefits plans for Members of Congress and designated congressional staff so long as the health benefits plans are purchased via the appropriate SHOP as determined by the Director,” a summary of the final rule says. “Nothing in the final rule or the law prevents a Member of Congress or designated congressional staff from declining a Government contribution for him or herself by choosing a different option for their health insurance coverage.”

In other words, Cruz “could purchase coverage in the outside market but would get no subsidy from the FEHBP program,”
Tim Jost clarified for ThinkProgress, referring to the acronym for the federal health care program.

“It seems like the primary other option he would have is to take advantage of COBRA through his wife, though he’d be forgoing the employer contribution. He could also buy non-group coverage,” Larry Levitt, Senior Vice President at the Kaiser Family Foundation, said.

Cruz could also potentially purchased insurance through his presidential campaign’s presumptive health care insurance. In those instances, however, he would have had to give up his employer’s contribution and likely pay more for insurance than he is now being charged under Obamacare.

DESPITE initially telling CNN’s Dana Bash that Cruz didn’t pursue other alternatives because “Obamacare has wiped out the individual market, leaving Cruz with few options,”
his staff is now explaining to reporters that Cruz might skip the DC exchange and sign up for coverage in Texas, through that state’s federal exchange. “As it happens, Cruz appears likely to forego the 75% employer contribution he could get as a member of Congress and instead access Obamacare from Texas, which doesn’t have a state exchange,” The Daily Caller reports, adding, “That means Cruz would use HealthCare.gov to get health insurance, at the same time the Supreme Court is considering ruling taxpayer [subsidies] for federal exchange customers illegal.”​


So for probably a few hundred dollars a month more, he could maintain his integrity/Filibuster.
My God Clowns, his wife works/worked at Goldman Sachs! (just on leave)
Bonuses alone for mere secretaries are 30-50K there.


How bout another Wisecrack with No Content JM.
Your posts are a Disgrace to DP.
But hey, they're partisan enough to get lotsa likes from the boards most loyal gang.
 
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Does anyone else find it ironic when you see someone who keeps using sites like "Think Progress" while screeching about other posters and their sources being "partisan"?
 
Isn't that only if he wants the employer subsidy? If he's declining the subsidy, I'm not sure why he can't go out and get a private family plan from Texas or wherever.

Why would he decline employer funded insurance (aka "subsidy")?

It isn't his fault his employer decided to make their insurance plan be part of the Exchanges that the law that they passed set up.
 
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