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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Food stamps do exist to help all on some degree, if you collapse into poverty and need help, you will be able to access food stamps. That's like saying "Government supported stem cell research doesn't help me directly, pfft, screw that." We obviously have very different views and opinions, I love healthy discourse.
    Yes, people say the same for all welfare programs.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, people say the same for all welfare programs.
    You do agree on my point about stem cell research though, right? It's ridiculous the analogies people use these days.. Welfare programs work and are effective, sorry.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    You do agree on my point about stem cell research though, right? It's ridiculous the analogies people use these days.. Welfare programs work and are effective, sorry.
    Welfare programs do very little to solve anything, sorry. And no, I don't agree with you on stem cell research.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Welfare programs do very little to solve anything, sorry. And no, I don't agree with you on stem cell research.
    It's essentially what's implied with your statements. "I'll never be poor and need help from welfare programs.. they're useless!" and then.. "PFFT, I'LL NEVER HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT COULD BE HELPED WITH STEM CELL RESEARCH, IT'S WASTING MAH MONEEEHHH" They do very little to solve anything? That point is wrong. Welfare's effect on poverty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    How are they forced? Give me some data on this, something.
    are you not familiar with the individual mandate?

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    are you not familiar with the individual mandate?
    It doesn't force anyone, it is a tax penalty. "Depending on your coverage, income, and family size, you will either pay a flat dollar amount or a percentage of income above the tax return filing threshold for your filing status. The fee is capped at the national average for a Bronze health plan available in the marketplace, and it’s only paid for full months you or a family member went without coverage."

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    It doesn't force anyone, it is a tax penalty. "Depending on your coverage, income, and family size, you will either pay a flat dollar amount or a percentage of income above the tax return filing threshold for your filing status. The fee is capped at the national average for a Bronze health plan available in the marketplace, and it’s only paid for full months you or a family member went without coverage."
    whew. that's great news... for a minute, I was pretty sure the federal government was ordering citizens to purchase healthcare insurance and punishing us if we didn't.

    oh wait, that's exactly what they are doing...imagine that

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    It's essentially what's implied with your statements. "I'll never be poor and need help from welfare programs.. they're useless!" and then.. "PFFT, I'LL NEVER HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT COULD BE HELPED WITH STEM CELL RESEARCH, IT'S WASTING MAH MONEEEHHH" They do very little to solve anything? That point is wrong. Welfare's effect on poverty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    That is called a correlation. All you have to do now is prove the causation. Good luck with that.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    whew. that's great news... for a minute, I was pretty sure the federal government was ordering citizens to purchase healthcare insurance and punishing us if we didn't.

    oh wait, that's exactly what they are doing...imagine that
    The 'punishment' is minimal and has exemptions.
    Quick List of Common ObamaCare Exemptions
    Here are common ObamaCare exemptions from the fee claimed on the 8965 exemptions form:

    You got covered during open enrollment either inside or outside the Marketplace
    You went less than three months without coverage
    You don’t have to file taxes because your income is below the tax filing threshold
    Coverage would cost more than 8% of household income per person
    You got denied Medicaid or CHIP

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is called a correlation. All you have to do now is prove the causation. Good luck with that.
    It looks at many countries, I suppose welfare isn't the "causation" for any of them. Absurdity.

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