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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    This^^^^^^ That is a great point.
    Feel free to use it.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    sigh...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1064461846

    Don't try to be lazy with me again...I won't be helping you out anymore.
    Ah, so, how about every other program passed in a similar way, they obviously destroyed us...

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    What did they screw up for decades by the way?
    Our free market health care industry.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Our free market health care industry.
    By doing what?

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Ah, so, how about every other program passed in a similar way, they obviously destroyed us...
    Oh, for sure. Our health care industry isn't the only area our government has inserted it's dirty fingers into.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Oh, for sure. Our health care industry isn't the only area our government has inserted it's dirty fingers into.
    Ok, start naming these programs and specific things the government has done to healthcare to "destroy it"

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    By doing what?
    Free market healthcare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    The issue of government intrusion into the health care industry is certainly not beneficial to either patient or physician. Ponzi schemes such as Social Security and Medicare were wonderful plans for those who got in on the ground floor. Since I was a teenager I have believed that when it comes time for me to retire there will be nothing left of Social Security. Now that I am in my mid-forties I am even more convinced of that. If someone chooses to participate in these Ponzi schemes that should be their choice, and their choice only. We have already read that according to a 1960 Supreme Court case the American people have no legal standing when it comes to the money that we have already contributed to Social Security. The government can do whatever it deems appropriate with those funds. The idea of being forced to take part in such a scheme, namely Medicare, simply because I have reached a certain age is unconscionable.

    The American people want quality medical service at a fair price. Physicians want to offer that quality service; however, the prices are not under their control for those who choose to remain beholden to third party providers. The options are few and the choices are very clear. Unless something is done to change and improve the health care system as we know it things will only get worse. Looking at the Canadian model or even the model currently offered by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts provides evidence that the universal health care idea is not the way to go.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    You do realize free market healthcare would be worse then healthcare under privatized industries with government regulation.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    All of the acts mentioned, I don't see the negative effects presented by them, care to name a specific one?
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    Preceding
    Social Security Amendments of 1965 Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (1986) Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (1996) Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act (2003) Patient Safety and Quality Improvement Act (2005)
    Superseded
    Affordable Health Care for America Act (House bill - H.R. 3962) America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 (H.R. 3200) America's Healthy Future Act (Baucus bill - S. 1796)
    Proposed
    United States National Health Care Act (2009, H.R. 676) Healthy Americans Act (2007, 2009) Health Security Act (1993, H.R. 3600)
    Latest enacted
    Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Senate bill - H.R. 3590) Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 (H.R. 4872)

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    You do realize free market healthcare would be worse then healthcare under privatized industries with government regulation.
    No, I don't realize that...in fact, I realize just the opposite.
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