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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Could say the same for any president, it's just a claim based on hatred.
    There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Bill Clinton is a sociopath, just like there is plenty of evidence to suggest that Obama is narcissistic and has low self esteem.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I haven't refused to address that.
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    You asked me about costs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Really? Look at all of the european countries with UHC, most are doing phenomenal.
    We're about the Only industrialized/OECD country that doesn't have UHC/Public care and we have about DOUBLE the cost of most everyone else, with Not near the best outcome.

    (Chart from a 'Leftist' WSJ article)
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Bill Clinton is a sociopath, just like there is plenty of evidence to suggest that Obama is narcissistic and has low self esteem.
    Oh yeah, you can find "evidence" for anything, but I agree clinton was pretty, err.. "sexual" if you know what I mean, but not a sociopath. Sociopath: a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Just going by his record Nixon was actually a pretty good president. Of course Watergate is all he's remembered for, and rightly so.
    I'm simply referring to his "asshole factor," such as it is. Nixon was paranoid to the point of psychosis.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    There is! It's simple ethics and morality, most people with a moral compass of any sort will see that.
    YOUR ethics. YOUR morality. YOUR moral compass.

    Do you wish to impose what YOU believe on everyone else...whether they agree with you or not?
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    We're about the Only industrialized/OECD country that doesn't have UHC/Public care and we have more than DOUBLE The cost of anyone else with Not near the best outcome.

    (Chart from a 'Leftist' WSJ article)
    Was about to post that, actually. And look at our "quality of care" under the "private, unregulated free market healthcare system" when comparing to these countries with UHC. The ACA doesn't solve the main problem, but it's a tiny step towards something better.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    There is a difference between healthcare and providing flat screen televisions.
    I have seen many flat screen televisions in healthcare facilities.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    YOUR ethics. YOUR morality. YOUR moral compass.

    Do you wish to impose what YOU believe on everyone else...whether they agree with you or not?
    I think most human beings would agree that giving healthcare to everyone is moral, if we look worldwide.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    We're about the Only industrialized/OECD country that doesn't have UHC/Public care and we have more than DOUBLE the cost of anyone else with Not near the best outcome.

    (Chart from a 'Leftist' WSJ article)
    shrug...

    The majority of our country's costs is the result of government interference in a free market. That's easy to correct.

    What's not so easy to correct are those non-monetary costs I spoke of.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I have seen many flat screen televisions in healthcare facilities.
    Harr harr such a clever talking point that has no relevance to what you know I am referring to.

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