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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    You're kidding right?
    No, and why did you snip the other parts of my post out?

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    The point is he has other options. His whole political career has been based on repealing ACA, he shut down the government because of ACA.
    What options does he have?

    A. Pay for completely out of pocket for insurance, which is still impacted and affected by the ACA due to the regulations and rules placed upon insurance companies.
    B. Utilize his employer provided health care option, which is through the ACA
    C. Break the law and pay a fine.

    Option A has him getting insurance that's connected to the ACA. Option B has him getting insurance that's connected to the ACA. Option C is him breaking the law.

    Perhaps I'm missing something, but please tell me what option he has that:

    1. Gets him insurance
    2. Does not interact with the ACA
    3. Does not break the law

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    In other words he is buying through ACA. I cannot help the fact Cruz took Obamacare up as his crusade. He has other options. The man cannot walk the talk. End of story.
    In other words, he's getting insurance through his employer, and his employer made a law (that he didn't vote for) that said the employer-based insurance has to go through the Exchange.

    He never advocated for the end of employer-based insurance, and he didn't vote to move the Federal plan to the Exchanges.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Gotta love where we've come to in politics and as a society

    "A politician is choosing not to violate the law. HOW DARE HE!"

    You can't make this crap up sometimes
    Absolutely!

    It would totally boggle my mind...except I've grown accustomed to such things from the left.

    It like enacting a law that requires hospitals to provide health care services...even if the patient cannot pay for it, and when that causes prices to skyrocket they pass Obamacare to "solve" the problem.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What options does he have?

    A. Pay for completely out of pocket for insurance, which is still impacted and affected by the ACA due to the regulations and rules placed upon insurance companies.
    B. Utilize his employer provided health care option, which is through the ACA
    C. Break the law and pay a fine.

    Option A has him getting insurance that's connected to the ACA. Option B has him getting insurance that's connected to the ACA. Option C is him breaking the law.

    Perhaps I'm missing something, but please tell me what option he has that:

    1. Gets him insurance
    2. Does not interact with the ACA
    3. Does not break the law
    Why, who holding elective office would break the law? Who seeking elective office would break the law? Beats me.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    The point is he has other options. His whole political career has been based on repealing ACA, he shut down the government because of ACA.
    Yeah, you guys wouldn't pissed off about that.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Absolutely!

    It would totally boggle my mind...except I've grown accustomed to such things from the left.

    It like enacting a law that requires hospitals to provide health care services...even if the patient cannot pay for it, and when that causes prices to skyrocket they pass Obamacare to "solve" the problem.
    And then they refuse to admit that their stupid policy is at fault.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    A. Pay for completely out of pocket for insurance, which is still impacted and affected by the ACA due to the regulations and rules placed upon insurance companies.
    Yes, he can and should get private insurance if he is to remain ideologically pure. The insurance regulations (read: improved standards of coverage) are impacted by the ACA, but we're talking about the options he has control over.

    Cruz put himself in this paradoxical box, not liberals.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    GOP candidates Kasich and Paul have already started throwing bombs at the bomb-thrower Kamikaze Kruz. as coined by the WSJ.

    Cons want to dismiss the $24 billion that Kruz cost Joe and Jane taxpayer in October of 2013.

    Not to mention the untold amount spent on repeal with NOTHING to replace it with.

    What GOPs are really afraid of is that their REPLACE will look very much like ACA.
    But until they put their plan on the House floor, which we haven't seen with much of any useful issue since 2011, we'll never know .

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, you guys wouldn't pissed off about that.
    Blame Cruz for being the anti-ACA champion. He cost the government billions during his shutdown over the ACA (go go fiscal conservatism!). The least he can do is save the government a pittance and opt out of his Obamacare employer coverage.

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