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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Those examples you give are laws put in place to protect others from harm (speeding, smoking in a restaurant, etc.) The law Cruz would be breaking hurts Cruz and Cruz alone.
    So if he opted to not buy any insurance at all, and instead took his family to the emergency room for medical care, that wouldn't harm others? That certainly isn't what we heard as this deplorable law was being debated ad nauseam.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Those examples you give are laws put in place to protect others from harm (speeding, smoking in a restaurant, etc.) The law Cruz would be breaking hurts Cruz and Cruz alone.
    Ah, so your standard isn't that the breaking of the law is only punishable by a fine, but whether or not it's hurting others.

    So I'm guessing you're politicians critical of laws against prostitution and drug prohibition should be going around ****ing independent hookers or shooting up cocaine to be sure thier morally pure to you as well. You know, since those don't hurt other people either.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Ah, you voted for the hypocrites who did that. I get it.

    I'm glad I didn't. I wasn't hosed by their hypocrisy. Probably why I'm not melting down about Ted Cruz now.
    As soon as the name calling starts, I bow out. There's no reason to call people who happen to have a differing opinion names. I thought that's what made this country great. But maybe differing opinions get in the way nowadays. Limbaugh called a woman who he disagreed with a slut for 3 days on his show. You get on a forum and call people who voted differently from you idiots. Cut from the same cloth.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I love how you twist things, tres.
    And I love how you ignore the facts.

    Had he already been on the insurance he gets as a US Senator, you wouldn't have heard anything about it when on January 1, 2014, all of the members of Congress and their staffers had to move from the previous plan to the Exchanges.

    It's convenient to pay attention to it now because it involves Ted Cruz, someone the left simply loves to attack (as evidenced by this thread).

    He is getting employer-based insurance. That employer-based insurance is administered through the ACA Exchanges because Congress made that a law, effective date January 1, 2014.

    That is the unfortunate reality that doesn't fit neatly into the talking points.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Ah, so your standard isn't that the breaking of the law is only punishable by a fine, but whether or not it's hurting others.

    So I'm guessing you're politicians critical of laws against prostitution and drug prohibition should be going around ****ing independent hookers or shooting up cocaine to be sure thier morally pure to you as well. You know, since those don't hurt other people either.
    Those types of people get into office for sure. But I would never vote for them and hope most Americans wouldn't either since their reckless lifestyles would obviously affect their decisionmaking and be a distraction for the country.

    But I do love how you would compare not buying into ACA to doing hard drugs. You can't make this stuff up.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    And once again, he can afford those consequences. My God, a man got re-elected mayor after being caught with cocaine and a hooker. I doubt refusing to buy into ACA would doom Cruz's campaign (he can do that with his other whacko political theories).
    I don't know anything about his hooker or drugs habits nor do I want to know anything about them, but the point still stands that government officials should follow the law and not be doing things like standing by principles when the law disagrees with those principles.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    As soon as the name calling starts, I bow out. There's no reason to call people who happen to have a differing opinion names. I thought that's what made this country great. But maybe differing opinions get in the way nowadays. Limbaugh called a woman who he disagreed with a slut for 3 days on his show. You get on a forum and call people who voted differently from you idiots. Cut from the same cloth.
    Hey, there are probably 100 posts in this section alone that were made today by left leaning posters calling anyone who has any right leaning tendency on any issue a name. If you want, I'll hunt some down for you so you can wag your fingers at those people. You're of course fair and totally impartial, yes?

    I don't call people who vote differently from me idiots. I call people who vote for politicians without knowing they are being used and duped idiots. Why are you worried that I call people who don't post here idiots? See, because the rules are, we don't call each other names. In other words - I didn't call you a name.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Gotta love where we've come to in politics and as a society

    "A politician is choosing not to violate the law. HOW DARE HE!"
    The point is he has other options. His whole political career has been based on repealing ACA, he shut down the government because of ACA.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I call people who vote for politicians without knowing they are being used and duped
    You're kidding right?
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And I love how you ignore the facts.

    Had he already been on the insurance he gets as a US Senator, you wouldn't have heard anything about it when on January 1, 2014, all of the members of Congress and their staffers had to move from the previous plan to the Exchanges.

    It's convenient to pay attention to it now because it involves Ted Cruz, someone the left simply loves to attack (as evidenced by this thread).

    He is getting employer-based insurance. That employer-based insurance is administered through the ACA Exchanges because Congress made that a law, effective date January 1, 2014.

    That is the unfortunate reality that doesn't fit neatly into the talking points.

    In other words he is buying through ACA. I cannot help the fact Cruz took Obamacare up as his crusade. He has other options. The man cannot walk the talk. End of story.
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