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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    He could just not get the health insurance, pay the fine (its not like he can't afford it), and still be following the law. He would also be walking the talk.
    Obamacare gives him limited choices. He makes the best decision under those circumstances...just like everyone else. But that doesn't mean Obamacare is any good for anyone and it doesn't mean he should stop fighting to dump that crappy law.

    It's just like a liberal/progressive/socialist/Democrat to screw people over...make them abide by the crappy conditions of their law...and then criticize them for abiding by the law. Typical hypocrisy.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This is his employer-based insurance. When did he lobby to eliminate employer-based insurance?
    Once again, he's signing up for Obamacare which is what he has advocated against. He has other avenues if he truly finds it immoral.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    ACA gives you two options: buy health insuranceor pay the fine. He's not committing murder by not buying it.
    Again, the fine represents breaking the law. A government mandate is not a suggestion, but an order that you are supposed to do a certain activity or face government consequences. The people were not offered a suggestion to buy healthcare or pay a fine, but ordered to buy healthcare or pay a fine for not following the law.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Obamacare gives him limited choices.
    Yet he still has other choices.

    It's just like a liberal/progressive/socialist/Democrat to screw people over...make them abide by the crappy conditions of their law...and then criticize them for abiding by the law. Typical hypocrisy.
    If you are referring to me, I have been a strong opponent of ACA from the beginning. It is another law that benefits the elite (in this case the insurance companies) while screwing over the little man.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Again, the fine represents breaking the law. A government mandate is not a suggestion, but an order that you are supposed to do a certain activity or face government consequences.
    And once again, he can afford those consequences. My God, a man got re-elected mayor after being caught with cocaine and a hooker. I doubt refusing to buy into ACA would doom Cruz's campaign (he can do that with his other whacko political theories).
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    This is a biggie though. Bigger then any flip flop by Mittens. The fact that he didn't take COBRA and then make a big deal by saying 'see we don't need ACA we have COBRA' doesn't make any sense to me. Him signing up for something he hates when there were other options is amazing. Unless he has something up his sleeve this was a pretty big **** up.
    I have an answer about him, I believe he is nuts.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Once again, he's signing up for Obamacare which is what he has advocated against. He has other avenues if he truly finds it immoral.
    No, he's signing up for his employer-based insurance, which he has not advocated against. His employer-based insurance is through the Exchanges, which is a rule that the Democrats wrote into that law.

    He doesn't find employer-based insurance reprehensible.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Are there any other laws you (and apparently Americanwoman) suggest that politicians should not follow if they disagree with them? Shall a politician speed everywhere if he's against speed limits? Or perhaps if they're against laws that prohibit resturants/bars from allowing smoking, they should just be lighting up everytime they're in such a place in DC. Both of those violations of the law are similar to not adhering to the ACA laws regarding having health insurance; violations that's punishable by a fine.
    Those examples you give are laws put in place to protect others from harm (speeding, smoking in a restaurant, etc.) The law Cruz would be breaking hurts Cruz and Cruz alone.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Gotta love where we've come to in politics and as a society

    "A politician is choosing not to violate the law. HOW DARE HE!"

    You can't make this crap up sometimes

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, he's signing up for his employer-based insurance, which he has not advocated against. His employer-based insurance is through the Exchanges, which is a rule that the Democrats wrote into that law.

    He doesn't find employer-based insurance reprehensible.
    I love how you twist things, tres.
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