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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Yessssss. Preciousssssss. It defended the Precioussssssss perfectly.
    What many people like yourself do is put together a belief system that undermines itself and when criticized over this fact you start to stay stupid and nonsensical things that only makes your obvious lack of thought towards concepts like the state even more apparent and obnoxious.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post

    Ted Cruz Wants You To Believe He’s Legally Required To Sign Up For Obamacare. He’s Not.

    BY IGOR VOLSKY ...
    Ah, so what you and the collective left have your panties in a wad over is that Cruz chose not to use his personal wealth to bypass Obamacare because he wanted to use the same exchanges the average American is forced to use because they don't have that option financially?

    Clearly the worlds greatest monster.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    How can you maintain your own health if private insurance companies deny you if you have a pre-existing condition, and you lack the wealth needed to get medical care? Or how about cancer treatments costing tens of thousands that insurance companies only pay a fraction of, raise your rates afterwards, the state doesn't "need" to do anything, but defense, according to what I've read from you. That will obviously work well /s
    Is anyone acting towards your health by denying you insurance or medical care? If not, then it has nothing to do with my statement or the quote I provided.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    His flip flop collection might be larger than mitt romney's.
    This is a biggie though. Bigger then any flip flop by Mittens. The fact that he didn't take COBRA and then make a big deal by saying 'see we don't need ACA we have COBRA' doesn't make any sense to me. Him signing up for something he hates when there were other options is amazing. Unless he has something up his sleeve this was a pretty big **** up.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    How can you maintain your own health if private insurance companies deny you if you have a pre-existing condition, and you lack the wealth needed to get medical care? Or how about cancer treatments costing tens of thousands that insurance companies only pay a fraction of, raise your rates afterwards, the state doesn't "need" to do anything, but defense, according to what I've read from you. That will obviously work well /s
    There are lots of different sets of regulation that can be used to solve those difficulties.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    There are lots of different sets of regulation that can be used to solve those difficulties.
    60% of all personal bankruptcies are caused by medical expenses and costs. So no, there really isn't a lot of regulations to solve those difficulties. Unless of course you are counting going bankrupt as one of those options.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Cruz sold himself as the #1 opponent of ACA. Then he signs up for it? Just on principle alone he should get insurance through his wife's job's COBRA or get it on the private market. At one time I remember many Republicans saying we didn't need ACA because we have COBRA. Now Cruz signs up for ACA? Hilarious!

    And the people in Texas who have no health insurance will happily vote for this guy again. Wow, politics aside this guy is a worm.
    What's unprincipled about getting employer-based insurance?

    The liberals and leftists in Congress who supported the ACA while vehemently and loudly criticizing the model of employer-based insurance had employer-based insurance the entire time. They still do. Yet idiots keep voting for them.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    What's unprincipled about getting employer-based insurance?

    The liberals and leftists in Congress who supported the ACA while vehemently and loudly criticizing the model of employer-based insurance had employer-based insurance the entire time. They still do. Yet idiots keep voting for them.
    I would gladly discuss this. But Idiots?

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Another infamous tres borrachos rat hole.

    Here's your question: "Why would he decline employer funded insurance (aka "subsidy")?"

    The answer is simple - I do not know. Ask Rafael why he is declining employer FUNDED insurance, since it was Rafael who announced he was going to decline the "government contribution."
    One more time. His entire income is a "subsidy" if you want to call it that (which obviously you do). The contribution that is made by the taxpayers to his insurance coverage would have been made before January 1, 2014 no differently than it will be today. In other words, nothing has changed except his employer-based insurance plans are now on the Exchanges that his fellow lawmakers forced into existence with the ACA.

    Sorry, no rat hole, much as you want to pretend there is. There is no story here. Just like if he had been taking benefits from the government as was his right all along (like most of them do), and come January 1, 2014, now those exact same benefits are coming from plans set up on the Exchanges.

    But keep trying. I'll keep laughing at the weak partisan efforts to make this a story. It isn't. Unless we're going to discuss everyone else who is also getting this insurance. What does Nancy Pelosi get? Harry Reid? Maxine Waters? Chuck Schumer? Charlie Rangel? Are they all getting subsidized insurance too? This could make an interesting thread. How the wealthy Democratic politicians let you pay for their families' healthcare. Hmmm...
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    I would gladly discuss this. But Idiots?

    Good-bye.
    Ah, you voted for the hypocrites who did that. I get it.

    I'm glad I didn't. I wasn't hosed by their hypocrisy. Probably why I'm not melting down about Ted Cruz now.
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