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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If Cruz wants to take advantage of the benefits that everyone else in his position, everyone else in his staff
    That's right. Ted Cruz is no better than any American who takes advantage of Obamacare and/or government benefits. It is financially beneficial for him to do so. He could remain ideologically pure and reject those benefits, but he's looking out for himself and his family. Like many Americans who benefit from Obamacare.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Then you need to clarify your line that "the government is not there to innovate or explore space." Because that's sure what it sounded like. Hint: The Constitution says that one of Congress' duties is "To promote the progress of science and useful arts."
    Lol! That's the copyright clause.



    "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."

    Fail.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Cruz sold himself as the #1 opponent of ACA. Then he signs up for it? Just on principle alone he should get insurance through his wife's job's COBRA or get it on the private market. At one time I remember many Republicans saying we didn't need ACA because we have COBRA. Now Cruz signs up for ACA? Hilarious!

    And the people in Texas who have no health insurance will happily vote for this guy again. Wow, politics aside this guy is a worm.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    That's right. Ted Cruz is no better than any American who takes advantage of Obamacare and/or government benefits. It is financially beneficial for him to do so. He could remain ideologically pure and reject those benefits, but he's looking out for himself and his family. Like many Americans who benefit from Obamacare.
    DOH!

    So now that I answered your question- he DID have options - you Fold like a tent.

    He was willing to Shut the country down for his "ideology", and cost Millions/Tens of Millions of People, Billions of dollars.

    His whole campaign IS "ideology".
    His not a Deal maker/Nickel and dimer/compromiser.
    That IS his constituency.

    Now he's a Penny-Pinching HYPOCRITE whose made a mockery of himself.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Lol! That's the copyright clause.



    "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."

    Fail.
    You are dodging your original point. For the third time, clarify your sentence that "the government is not there to innovate or explore space," and prove that NASA does not apply to that contrived restriction.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    He's signing up for his employer-based insurance. Like I have, and most people with a job have.

    His entire income is paid for by the taxpayers.

    This is priceless. Keep at it!
    Another infamous tres borrachos rat hole.

    Here's your question: "Why would he decline employer funded insurance (aka "subsidy")?"

    The answer is simple - I do not know. Ask Rafael why he is declining employer FUNDED insurance, since it was Rafael who announced he was going to decline the "government contribution."

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You are dodging your original point. For the third time, clarify your sentence that "the government is not there to innovate or explore space," and prove that NASA does not apply to that contrived restriction.
    That I disagree with your ideology of ever growing duties of the state? That I happen to think that the only logical duty of the state is to protect the peoples rights?

    "Each of us has a natural right — from God — to defend his person, his liberty, and his property. These are the three basic requirements of life, and the preservation of any one of them is completely dependent upon the preservation of the other two. For what are our faculties but the extension of our individuality? And what is property but an extension of our faculties? If every person has the right to defend even by force — his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly. Thus the principle of collective right — its reason for existing, its lawfulness — is based on individual right. And the common force that protects this collective right cannot logically have any other purpose or any other mission than that for which it acts as a substitute. Thus, since an individual cannot lawfully use force against the person, liberty, or property of another individual, then the common force — for the same reason — cannot lawfully be used to destroy the person, liberty, or property of individuals or groups." - Frédéric Bastiat

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That I disagree with your ideology of ever growing duties of the state? That I happen to think that the only logical duty of the state is to protect the peoples rights?

    "Each of us has a natural right — from God — to defend his person, his liberty, and his property. These are the three basic requirements of life, and the preservation of any one of them is completely dependent upon the preservation of the other two. For what are our faculties but the extension of our individuality? And what is property but an extension of our faculties? If every person has the right to defend even by force — his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly. Thus the principle of collective right — its reason for existing, its lawfulness — is based on individual right. And the common force that protects this collective right cannot logically have any other purpose or any other mission than that for which it acts as a substitute. Thus, since an individual cannot lawfully use force against the person, liberty, or property of another individual, then the common force — for the same reason — cannot lawfully be used to destroy the person, liberty, or property of individuals or groups." - Frédéric Bastiat

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Yes? Btw, I disagree with the god part, but if the state is to exist it can only logically act in the defense of the people.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes? Btw, I disagree with the god part, but if the state is to exist it can only logically act in the defense of the people.
    I think defense also includes healthcare for the people, caring for the people seems to me to be defense of the people, in a sense. The "state" has to do alot more than just defend the people.

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