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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    How is it "forced on you."
    Exactly what do think law and mandates are? Suggestions? Some advice by some friends? Please don't tell me you don't realize that law is force.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    I can't believe this.
    He declared his candidacy yesterday saying he was going to repeal every single word.
    It may be mandatory, tho I see no reason he couldn't get private insurance and pay a penalty if required. That would be more consistent with his politics until now.
    No, this is not April Fools, this is a real headline.

    Ted Cruz going on Obamacare
    By Dana Bash and MJ Lee, CNN
    Updated 5:54 PM ET, Tue March 24, 2015
    Ted Cruz going on Obamacare - CNN.com

    [VIDEO interview with Dana Bash]

    Ted Cruz follows the law, confuses Democrats. News at 11.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    I can't believe this.
    Why? Ted Cruz has been stupid. This should be of no surprise.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    If every president strictly followed the constitution on everything, I can only imagine where we would be.. Can you imagine the outrage if states decided to control what churches were built? Same concept, state control of things like this is dividing, and doesn't work well at all.
    Not likely to happen since the due process clause was used by the Supreme Court to impose on States to include the Bill of Rights in their Constitutions.

    In addition, the Court used the Due Process Clause to extend the Bill of Rights to the states over time through a practice known as “incorporation.”

    Due Process Equal Protection and Disenfranchisement | Equality and the 14th Amendment | Constitution USA | PBS
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    HE and his wife CAN USE COBRA. Probably cost a few dollar More to Maintain his Principles.
    Of course, if she worked for Goldman Sachs (and will again), a few dollars more a month is no biggie!

    AGAIN from my post:

    "...He could sign up for coverage through COBRA, the law that requires employers to offer their employees health insurance for 18 months after they quit. If Cruz is the very optimistic type, he will need coverage for 20 months — from now until the election next November. So his coverage could, theoretically leave him short.

    The other problem with COBRA: it's expensive. Typically, the employer and the employee split the price of an insurance premium. But former employees on COBRA pay the entire cost.

    Cruz could buy individual market coverage without using the exchange, although that shopping experience can be messy. Outside of the exchange, there's no central repository of health insurance plans that lets you explore different options. While Healthcare.gov did indeed have a disastrous launch, the website now is actually pretty good for comparing different plans.

    Then there's the option of not buying coverage at all and paying a fine.
    This year, the Cruz family would pay either a $1,300 penalty for 2015 ($325 each for Cruz, his wife, and his two daughters) or 2 percent of their income, whichever is greater. That's likely cheaper than buying an insurance plan but also comes with the massive downside of remaining uninsured...

    So Mr Renegade could have even gone for No coverage too and Filibustered in REAL Life.

    Man, you are Wrigid Wright-Wing Wrong on EVERY Issue.
    So? Why should they sign up for COBRA? As an employee of the Congress, he gets insurance coverage just like the rest of them do. He can't sign up for the insurance that the rest of the bloodsuckers had been getting courtesy of the taxpayers because the law they championed (the ACA) rendered that old way of getting insurance obsolete, and now all of them have to sign up for exchange insurance - again, because the law they passed says so.

    If this happened prior to January 1, 2014, it wouldn't have made the news - even the partisan sites. It would have been simply one more DC staffer or politician getting insurance through their federal insurance offering, and you and I and the left wing partisans and the Kardashians and everyone else would never have heard about it.

    Epic fail for the partisan effort to make this a bad reflection on Cruz.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    It is literally beyond belief. I mean I get the puppets, but what was the deal with all the remote control shark balloons? And seriously, no way he wasn't wearing a prosthetic.
    Just goes to show how the ACA really does work for everyone!

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    It's definitely ironic. Good to see the normal partisan talking points for both sides are still being worked.


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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So? Why should they sign up for COBRA? As an employee of the Congress, he gets insurance coverage just like the rest of them do. He can't sign up for the insurance that the rest of the bloodsuckers had been getting courtesy of the taxpayers because the law they championed (the ACA) rendered that old way of getting insurance obsolete, and now all of them have to sign up for exchange insurance - again, because the law they passed says so.
    Maybe I'm mistaken, but couldn't Cruz forgo government insurance and buy private insurance for his family?

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Just goes to show how the ACA really does work for everyone!

    Full disclosure: When I wrote that the OP only contained the words "I can't believe this."

    Whether that was a browser problem on my end or the OP was submitted incomplete I decided to have fun with whatever it was that mbig was incredulous over.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Maybe I'm mistaken, but couldn't Cruz forgo government insurance and buy private insurance for his family?
    No. Congress is required to go through the exchanges.
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