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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I will take another posters advice and not continue this discussion.
    That's for the best if all you have is ad hominem.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    "Women's rights" in this case refers to a women's right to get an abortion, easy access to birth control..
    I'm pretty sure Cruz is against abortion, with the basic notion that a woman's right doesn't extend to killing the unborn. But his position is that the federal government is not given the power to force their decision on the States, the Constitution leaves this to the States. Off the top of my head, I don't think Congress has ever passed a law making abortion legal.
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    Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I'm pretty sure Cruz is against abortion, with the basic notion that a woman's right doesn't extend to killing the unborn. But his position is that the federal government is not given the power to force their decision on the States, the Constitution leaves this to the States. Off the top of my head, I don't think Congress has ever passed a law making abortion legal.
    I don't want someone in office who wants to let states control women's rights, or gay marriage, but I guess I'm a psychopath.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I'm pretty sure Cruz is against abortion, with the basic notion that a woman's right doesn't extend to killing the unborn. But his position is that the federal government is not given the power to force their decision on the States, the Constitution leaves this to the States. Off the top of my head, I don't think Congress has ever passed a law making abortion legal.
    Correct. Under the 10th Amendment, the feds have no authority to dictate this specific element of each states' criminal code.

    The federal government has authority to set the criminal code in this matter only on explicitly federal territory.

    I hope to see appointments to SCotUS who would uphold the 10th Amendment and constitutional limits on federal power... Cruz is someone who would do that, at least.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I don't want someone in office who wants to let states control women's rights, or gay marriage, but I guess I'm a psychopath.
    It's really not up to the president at all. It shouldn't be a big issue for a candidate, the president can't do much about abortions. Although Obama has decided to try and do things that are unconstitutional and not in his power.

    It's just plain not in the Constitution for the federal government to control this. It's up to the States, not a decision that involves the president.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

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    It's really not up to the president at all. It shouldn't be a big issue for a candidate, the president can't do much about abortions. Although Obama has decided to try and do things that are unconstitutional and not in his power.

    It's just plain not in the Constitution for the federal government to control this. It's up to the States, not a decision that involves the president.
    If every president strictly followed the constitution on everything, I can only imagine where we would be.. Can you imagine the outrage if states decided to control what churches were built? Same concept, state control of things like this is dividing, and doesn't work well at all.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Abortion, contraceptives, rape victims.. You appear to not care about gay rights. Hm.
    Yes, I don't care about government marriage or people that desire to be part of it. It's a system that controls marriage and the terms of relationships that I abolished.

    Those issues are not new or anything I would describe as progressive. I was thinking that perhaps you had something new to speak of from feminists, but apparently you don't.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    People can get Viagra on these plans, are you ok with that? I want universal healthcare like many other countries, or at least something similar to what Switzerland has.
    If it was something that insurance companies agreed with and weren't mandated to make part of their plans, yes, I do.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    But who till take care of these people, certainly not privatized healthcare without regulation from the government.
    Those interested in their care. You seem interested in it, so why not you?

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