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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

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    Who the hell cares? What does progressive on woman's rights even mean anymore anyway?
    Abortion, contraceptives, rape victims.. You appear to not care about gay rights. Hm.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    One thing is for sure. He is going to look pretty ridiculous harping on the Affordable Care Act while being on it.
    No he's not, he's following principle as an elected official by following the law, to the letter. He's not even taking the govt contribution he could take advantage of. Nothing says you can't fight a law you live under. No, you have it way wrong. This actually gives him credibility.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No he's not, he's following principle as an elected official by following the law, to the letter. He's not even taking the govt contribution he could take advantage of. Nothing says you can't fight a law you live under. No, you have it way wrong. This actually gives him credibility.
    The partisan responses in this thread are actually no surprise. I'm just amazed at how many left leaners who no doubt supported the ACA have no idea that effective January 1, 2014, all members of Congress were required to switch from their previous insurance (FEHBP), to one of the new exchanges that were created by the law.

    This thread is disturbing.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    No.
    You're an Epic Partisan.
    I wasn't sure what he was required to do ("it MAY be mandatory") or if he had options, so that IS the way I posted it.
    I'm reading now/another site, (only since the OP was posted) since his wife 'unpaid left' GOLDMAN SACHS to campaign with him, he had to do it (?) since he no longer had ins through his spouse.
    Still not 100% Sure.
    BTW, what's this "Renegades" wife doing at G-S!
    Man, isn't that a bit early?

    I am basically a centrist and my positions/likes-received/given reflect that.

    The headline is just amazing/Well worth a Gasp in any case. The night after he cursed every word of ACA in his candidacy declaration.
    LOL I am not partisan at all. The law says that he has to purchase obamacare plan. it is in the bill and I can site it to you.
    All members of congress are required to purchase their insurance through the exchange.

    His wife is allowed to work wherever she wants to.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I'm ok with capitalism, it won't go away, but Marx's literature is revealing, and you must realize I don't want to obtain Marx's idea of an equal society, I enjoy his commentary and contributions to sociology, along with his criticisms of capitalism, which are flawed, yes, but insightful for a man living in the 1800's.
    I just think by now we would abolish all the communism, socialism, marxism, etc.. just because they end up subjecting people to oppressive dictatorships that have slaughtered millions.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I just think by now we would abolish all the communism, socialism, marxism, etc.. just because they end up subjecting people to oppressive dictatorships that have slaughtered millions.
    I don't agree with communism/Marxism, as they are not plausible, nor well though out in applying concepts to the modern world, but socialism does not cause dictatorships, it's horrible people that cause these things. Hence, why I am a democratic socialist.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    I can't believe this.
    He declared his candidacy yesterday saying he was going to repeal every single word.
    It may be mandatory, tho I see no reason he couldn't get private insurance and pay a penalty if required. That would be more consistent with his politics until now.
    No, this is not April Fools, this is a real headline.

    Ted Cruz going on Obamacare
    By Dana Bash and MJ Lee, CNN
    Updated 5:54 PM ET, Tue March 24, 2015
    Ted Cruz going on Obamacare - CNN.com

    [VIDEO interview with Dana Bash]
    This is one of those "Low information voter" articles, the LIV's will be stumped by the "hypocrisy" the hacks will try to run with it, the rest will roll theirs eyes at the faux outrage and wonder why people are so easily manipulated by the media.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    This is one of those "Low information voter" articles, the LIV's will be stumped by the "hypocrisy" the hacks will try to run with it, the rest will roll theirs eyes at the faux outrage and wonder why people are so easily manipulated by the media.
    Sounds like most of the main stream media. :P

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Actually, as I said, I wasn't sure he didn't have Options/it "MAY have been mandatory."
    Now I'm reading he Did have other Choices:

    Ted Cruz, who once spent 21 hours filibustering Obamacare, may sign up for Obamacare - Vox



    So, if the above is correct, and I believe it is, he could have signed up for Cobra quite easily, and unless the campaign goes unexpectedly well, he could Then have tried O'care, or Private.
    O'care was just Cheaper I guess.
    Is that Not a sell out of principles?


    COBRA is only for people that have quit or lost their job. please show me where Cruz has quit or lost his job?
    it even says that in the article. now if his wife has left goldman sachs then yes she would qualify for cobra on her existing healthcare plan.

    you have no idea what you are talking about or just want to ignore facts.

    Congress and an Exemption from ‘Obamacare’?

    he has to and must purchase a plan on the exchange according to the ACA. it was passed by congress and approved by Obama himself.

    so please explain how it is a sell out on principles to do what the law says you must do.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    A prominent German intellectual who contributed great ideas was a bum. You obviously know all about Karl Marx.
    Marx was a boil on human history and the misery that fool's ideas have wrought, are a dark stain on Humanity and a mark of lesser intelligence on those that still look to him for ideas.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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