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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I think it's a plot by the GOP hierarchy to make the rest of the field look normal .
    I've considered the same thing...using Cruz as "red meat" is a pretty shrewd tactic, but it can work.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    You're a liar, I'm sorry but you are. Countries around the world with very socialist leanings and policies have just as much freedom as we do, if not more, depending on what you measure. How are they bad? He simply commentates on his idea of an ideal society, due to the way capitalism operates. How is socialism incapable with freedom anyways, giving the means of production to the people? Democratic socialism?
    I'm hardly a liar and I have no reason to lie. Marx has influenced a great many people in this world in ways they are not informed enough to realize. He has corrupted the mind of people to the point where they actually think socialism is a some sort of beacon of liberty, when it is in fact a road to servitude and slavery. The western world is not free and socialism has done nothing to award it any freedom.

    I honestly want you to think of what it means for the people to own the means of production and ponder exactly how you obtain his idea of an equal society. When you do that I want you to explain to me my choices and abilities in this society and what I must and must not do. Then after you do that bit of thinking over his ideas I want you to revisit capitalism and explore his ideas exploitation in capitalism. Tell me, what if I wanted to associate in some other means? What then?

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Btw Dovkan, isn't it funny that a man you think was an economic powerhouse made an argument that innovation was bad because it pushed out technology. Of course, this statement of his people treat as a ground breaking comment and something to hold on a pedestal, but it is actually an argument in opposition to technical and economic advancement. Funny how that works. Not to say it isn't true, but it is one of those captain obvious statements that serves no purpose.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    At least Obama is progressive on women's rights, gay rights, climate change.. Ted Cruz isn't. Simple.
    Who the hell cares? What does progressive on woman's rights even mean anymore anyway?

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Ted's announcement was comedy gold. He goes to LIBERTY University where the students were forced under threat of a fine to attend. But the gold stars go to the kids behind him that were wearing the "I stand with RAND" shirts.

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    All the kids should have shown up with shirts supporting other candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    All the kids should have shown up with shirts supporting other candidates.
    How does forcing the students to show up square with being a Libertarian ?
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    How does forcing the students to show up square with being a Libertarian ?
    It doesn't. That is why I said all the kids should troll the event.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    You don't have to take government subsides or go on Obamacare in order to follow the law. Just FYI. There are ways to obtain insurance without touching Obamacare.

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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    I can't believe this.
    He declared his candidacy yesterday saying he was going to repeal every single word.
    It may be mandatory, tho I see no reason he couldn't get private insurance and pay a penalty if required. That would be more consistent with his politics until now.
    No, this is not April Fools, this is a real headline.

    Ted Cruz going on Obamacare
    By Dana Bash and MJ Lee, CNN
    Updated 5:54 PM ET, Tue March 24, 2015
    Ted Cruz going on Obamacare - CNN.com

    [VIDEO interview with Dana Bash]


    I love it. I saw the interview.
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    Re: Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm hardly a liar and I have no reason to lie. Marx has influenced a great many people in this world in ways they are not informed enough to realize. He has corrupted the mind of people to the point where they actually think socialism is a some sort of beacon of liberty, when it is in fact a road to servitude and slavery. The western world is not free and socialism has done nothing to award it any freedom.

    I honestly want you to think of what it means for the people to own the means of production and ponder exactly how you obtain his idea of an equal society. When you do that I want you to explain to me my choices and abilities in this society and what I must and must not do. Then after you do that bit of thinking over his ideas I want you to revisit capitalism and explore his ideas exploitation in capitalism. Tell me, what if I wanted to associate in some other means? What then?
    I'm ok with capitalism, it won't go away, but Marx's literature is revealing, and you must realize I don't want to obtain Marx's idea of an equal society, I enjoy his commentary and contributions to sociology, along with his criticisms of capitalism, which are flawed, yes, but insightful for a man living in the 1800's.

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