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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Was there some message Andreas Lubitz was trying to send with this mass murder by airliner?

    Often, mass murderers just feel resentment toward society, or certain numbers of people in society.

    Bin Laden stated that he did 9-11 to call attention to the plight of the Palestinian people.



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    If you still believe that OBL pulled off 911, you might be living under a rock.

    Lubitz was being treated by psychiatrists and hid that information from his employer. I'm curious as to which psychoactive medications he was taking, and how old he was when first treated.

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    If you still believe that OBL pulled off 911, you might be living under a rock.

    Lubitz was being treated by psychiatrists and hid that information from his employer. I'm curious as to which psychoactive medications he was taking, and how old he was when first treated.

    Osama Bin Laden may have had some help with 9-11. OBL himself was surprised at how his airliners brought down three towers. OBL was an experienced architect, and he said his own preliminary calculations did not indicate so much damage. Others who may have assisted in the destruction of the World Towers, may have had goals other than, to assist the Palestinians. Did OBL ever figure out who else helped him with 9-11, and why?

    What is of interest to me about medications, is what meds did he stop taking, within the last 6 months. Psychiatry does not recognize, or at least glosses over, the come-down period, of withdrawal days, weeks, or months, as a period of effect of the drug. The readjustment period, after stopping taking some prescription medications, is challenging for some individuals, for weeks or months. Many multiple murders by depressed individuals have been committed after the individual discontinued the meds. I have heard of effects up to 3 Months after stopping taking an Anti-Depressant.

    If pharmaceutical companies funded studies on withdrawal problems, could more counseling be justified to help depressed individuals during withdrawal?



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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Maybe my sense of empathy is overdeveloped so I have a hard time understanding people who lack it.

    Did the Captain try to use an Axe to break the Locked cockpit door?

    "However, Bild reported on Friday that the captain also tried to use an axe to break down the cockpit's armoured door.

    This could not be immediately confirmed, but a spokesman for Germanwings confirmed to the AFP news agency that an axe was on board the aircraft.

    Such a tool is "part of the safety equipment of an A320," the spokesman told Bild.

    Several airlines responded to the crash by immediately changing their rules to require a second crew member to be in the cockpit at all times. That is already compulsory in the United States but not in Europe."

    Report: Germanwings co-pilot sought psychiatric help - Al Jazeera English






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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    I think it’s a case similar to the missing Malaysia airliner MH370, the shooting down of MH17. It’s a push on German to join a war with Russia in Ukraine. We could see the same push on French in Paris Hebdo attack recently.

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    I think it’s a case similar to the missing Malaysia airliner MH370, the shooting down of MH17. It’s a push on German to join a war with Russia in Ukraine. We could see the same push on French in Paris Hebdo attack recently.
    So the change that Lubitz was talking about making, when he was to become famous, will be that Germany will join the war to help Ukraine to fight off Russian aggression, because of his clever actions?

    Did the Blonde lady from Burger King know that Andreas was dating other women, during their time together? Was the Blonde lady OK with an open marriage?

    Maybe as a flight attendant, Lubitz felt one of the flight attendants should be up in the cockpit during pilot breaks. Maybe Lubitz felt he was unfairly denied time in the cockpit, as a flight attendant. The only change I see from Lubitz crashing the plane in France, is the two person minimum in the cockpit, for Europe, as it has been in the US.

    What else did he change?

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    No. Would a student dreaming about a class or a test make her unfit to be a student? Would a daycare worker who dreams about a daycare be unfit to work at a daycare? Would a firefighter dreaming about a fire make him unfit?
    "The girlfriend of killer co-pilot Andreas Lubitz may be pregnant with his child.

    Kathrin Goldbach, 26, whom he once planned to marry, discovered that she was expecting a baby as little as two weeks ago, German media reported.

    The pair, who are said to have had a patchy relationship over the last seven years, were letting the pregnancy news sink in when Lubitz crashed a Germanwings flight into the French Alps, according to German newspaper


    Read more: Is Germanwing's Andreas Lubitz's ex-girlfriend Kathrin Goldbach pregnant? | Daily Mail Online
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    " news comes as it was suggested that Miss Goldbach broke off her relationship with Lubitz because his erratic personality left her fearing for her safety, the newspaper reported.

    One friend said: ‘He tried to order her what to wear, what men she could speak to, even the length of her skirts. He was a control freak of the highest order.’

    Another friend added: ‘She said he was very kind and attentive, but that he had problems with mood swings. And I think we sensed that she became more fearful over time.’

    It claimed that Miss Goldbach lost patience with Lubitz's increasingly unpredictable and controlling behaviour just weeks before he downed the Germanwings Flight 4U9525.

    Miss Goldbach still lived with Lubitz, 27, at the time of his death, but it is understood she waslooking for another place to live.

    German media also reported that Lubitz was having a five-month fling with a Germanwings stewardess named as Maria.

    ‘He was always seeking assurances about the way he looked and the way he was viewed by others,’ Maria said.


    Read more: Is Germanwing's Andreas Lubitz's ex-girlfriend Kathrin Goldbach pregnant? | Daily Mail Online
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    Is Germanwing's Andreas Lubitz's ex-girlfriend Kathrin Goldbach pregnant? | Daily Mail Online
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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Did the Captain try to use an Axe to break the Locked cockpit door?

    "However, Bild reported on Friday that the captain also tried to use an axe to break down the cockpit's armoured door.

    This could not be immediately confirmed, but a spokesman for Germanwings confirmed to the AFP news agency that an axe was on board the aircraft.

    Such a tool is "part of the safety equipment of an A320," the spokesman told Bild.

    Several airlines responded to the crash by immediately changing their rules to require a second crew member to be in the cockpit at all times. That is already compulsory in the United States but not in Europe."

    Report: Germanwings co-pilot sought psychiatric help - Al Jazeera English






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    I believe the fire axe is almost always kept inside the cockpit, so I am skeptical this will prove true, especially since they said there was nothing on the voice recorder for the last ten minutes other than breathing.
    If I blow the conch and they don't come back; then we've had it. We shan't keep the fire going. We'll be like animals. We'll never be rescued.

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    I believe the fire axe is almost always kept inside the cockpit, so I am skeptical this will prove true, especially since they said there was nothing on the voice recorder for the last ten minutes other than breathing.
    In addition to Lubitz breathing, the pilot could be heard to be banging on the door, and commanding Lubitz to "Open the Damn Door!" Whether the banging on the cockpit door was with an Axe, or just fists, or shoulder, probably takes further analysis.

    Did the Captain ask other passengers for help to get through the cockpit door?


    "Reports emerged that police searching the pilot's flat had found a 'small mountain of pills' and he had apparently been refusing to take his antidepressants medication.

    There were also claims that officers recovered Lubitz's diary, in which he allegedly wrote that he expected to be 'found out' and lose his job over health issues.

    Miss Goldbach still lived with Lubitz, 27, but it is understood she was on the lookout for a flat after being driven away by his need to be in charge. He even tried to tell her what to wear, friends said.

    While outwardly confident, his hidden insecurity demanded constant attention – which led him to betray Kathrin with a five-month fling with a Germanwings stewardess conducted in cheap hotels.

    But she, too, is believed to have ended her relationship after growing fearful of the 'tormented and erratic' Lubitz......


    "Yesterday, it was revealed that Lubitz was living 'on the edge' because he feared that his deteriorating blurred vision would cost him his pilot's licence."


    Killer pilot Andreas Lubitz planned to marry teacher girlfriend but she broke off relationship just weeks before Alps crash - as police find 'small mountain of anti-depressants' in his flat* - EthioScoop.com
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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    "Reports emerged that police searching the pilot's flat had found a 'small mountain of pills' and he had apparently been refusing to take his antidepressants medication.

    There were also claims that officers recovered Lubitz's diary, in which he allegedly wrote that he expected to be 'found out' and lose his job over health issues.

    Miss Goldbach still lived with Lubitz, 27, but it is understood she was on the lookout for a flat after being driven away by his need to be in charge. He even tried to tell her what to wear, friends said.

    While outwardly confident, his hidden insecurity demanded constant attention – which led him to betray Kathrin with a five-month fling with a Germanwings stewardess conducted in cheap hotels.



    But she, too, is believed to have ended her relationship after growing fearful of the 'tormented and erratic' Lubitz."


    Killer pilot Andreas Lubitz planned to marry teacher girlfriend but she broke off relationship just weeks before Alps crash - as police find 'small mountain of anti-depressants' in his flat* - EthioScoop.com
    Has nothing to do with my comment on the fire axe location, but okay, there will be a lady possibly looking to get an abortion in the near future.
    If I blow the conch and they don't come back; then we've had it. We shan't keep the fire going. We'll be like animals. We'll never be rescued.

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Did the Captain ask other passengers for help to get through the cockpit door?
    That he couldn't get thru the door is a good thing in terms of anti-terrorism. We don't want a group of terrorists to be able to break through the door.

    In this case, the problem was that there was only one person in the cockpit. Sadly, Europe made the wrong decision on that. Of course, even if there had been a second person, they might have been overpowered anyway.

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